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Author Topic:   changes or mutations ... perhaps clarifying the terms in the process.
nwr
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Message 5 of 22 (267511)
12-10-2005 11:02 AM


Why "mistakes in copying "?
Evolutionary biologists are usually careful to avoid language that suggests teleological committments. That is, except when talking about mutations. There they use terms such as "mistakes in copying" or "copy error", which suggests that the purpose was to make an identical copy but some sort of error crept in.
The literature seems to strongly suggest that evolution would not occur if there were none of these "copy errors". So we have an apparently strange system that only works because it doesn't work.
Why not a different terminology, such as using "different" or "discrepancy" instead of "error".
It seems to me that we could consider reproduction to be a creative process of constructing the next generation, with "variation on a theme of ..." as part of the creative process.

What shall it profit a nation if it gain the whole world, yet lose its own soul.
(paraphrasing Mark 8:36)

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nwr
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Message 20 of 22 (267745)
12-11-2005 10:04 AM
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12-11-2005 9:49 AM


Re: Why "mistakes in copying "?
RAZD writes:
Changes in DNA by differences in location, number and orientation of segments made during {reproductive\replication} processes
Looks good to me.
RAZD in message 17 writes:
You are also dealing with the layman's understanding of mutation - the B-grade horror movie radiation induced instant change at a macro level.
That sounds like a pretty good assessment of how most people view mutation.

What shall it profit a nation if it gain the whole world, yet lose its own soul.
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