In defense of nihilism

This very website shows how it is possible for people to believe whatever they want regardless of the evidence. Randman and Faith are just two of many posters here who chose to be willfully ignorant no matter what the facts are. The problem with God(s) is there isn't any evidence of his/their existence and people still feel strongly about it. If God(s) was to make his/their presence known and verifiable it would not in any way interfere with our free will (if such a thing even exists). Saying that having evidence/knowledge of something somehow interferes will our free will would be like saying being shown that 1 + 1 = 2 would interfere with our free will about math.

Well then according to your only ignorant people have free will and the more knowledge you have the less free you are. Not just that but all science is declared null and void by those two, they are just don't see it. One doesn't just to pick and choose which parts of science they deem to be correct, they have to either disprove the parts they don't like or grudgingly admit that it appears to be correct, until it can be proven otherwise.

I would call it reason triumphing over ignorance and superstition.It's not arrogant to say that the Earth looks like it's ~6 billion years old based on what we've observed.

Listen it is impossible to carry on with someone who wouldn't believe the scientific evidence if it reached up and slapped them in the face. You may remain willfully ignorant if you want to and I reserve the right to call people ignorant if they refuse to to open their eyes to the observable facts. Notice I said observable, anyone can see them. They don't have to have any special mystical belief system or join any secrect club or society. They only have to observe and test what they observe in a scientific manner.

Listen BLIND Faith, if god wants to do a miracle before me that bring it the fuck on! That is the whole point here! If god truly existed then he/she/it/they would be so obvious that no-one could deny it. Instead this god(s) of yours and others hides from rational review like a cockroach from the light!The bible is a work written by man in a simpler time to explain the strange and scary world. Grow up and be an adult in the 21st century!

Fine let me respond point by point to your ridiculous post. Well I haven't ever witnessed a miracle so how would you know. You've been introduced to scientific evidence and you have rejected it out of hand with little or no review simply on the basis of it not agreeing with YOUR interpretation of some English version of the Christian bible. And even if a miracle occurred, how are we supposed to link it to your god, why not a different one? How arrogant of you to think that your god is the one and true god. Eyewitness evidence is the least reliable type of evidence. There have been many studies on this. Physical evidence is much more reliable. Historical accounts are often greatly exaggerated and sometimes are manipulated for political gain. Ah, religion in general is a "mystical belief system", at least that was what I was referring to, so you are wrong. How many non-christians believe in the christian god? Argument from authority, invalid! There is no reason to believe that these people were trustworthy and that even if they were, that what they wrote is to be trusted. It could be that they had good intentions but were still in error in what they wrote.You may believe anything you want, but if you don't have verifiable evidence of the scientific kind, then it won't trump what we've learned using the methods of science.

I wouldn't be suprised that if one looked up the definition of "blind faith" that her picture would be there. Her posts are so berift of logic and reasoning that it is a wonder she is still allowed her.As far as the bible comments being uncalled for, who the heck are you to tell me that I can't criticise religion. To me religion is a fantasy and reasonable adults would be better off without it. All the more reason to leave religion behind.

Unlike many christian posters, I did not claim anything other than what religion was to me. I did not say that I was privy to the one and only TRUTH! Please don't read more into what I've wrote than is there. Again, I'm making no claim that there is any system that manages to "avoid killing and suffering". Can YOU name any? I'll give you a hint, christianity isn't one. I can tell you that I would rather live in a socialistic representitive democracy than any theocracy.

I have news for you Faith, those "parodies" of yours only showed how threadbare your arguments against science are. It always comes down to your magical book against observable facts and I'll choose the facts over a book any day.

Well I'll play nice and not encourage any further name calling. I probably should not have listed the names of two posters as examples in the one post and I'll not repeat that mistake.

Ok so my opinions are "self-righteous rude" but when you state you somehow aren't? What gives your opinions more weight than mine?Your statement here really just shows that you reject science, which has verifiable evidence.

Well then since you feel you can define what is and isn't science without credentials, you should move to Kansas and join the school board. They also think that they can redefine science.

Most reasonable people understand the difference between faith and science. It appears you don't and I'm not about to try and teach you. Go troll for somebody else.

I hate to be the one to tell you this but any position about the validity or not of any religion is only personal opinion. Where they hell did I ever say that?! I would appreciate you not making things up. You were the one that brought up people killing each other in the name of religion and I replied. I also don't think it's a good idea to kill people in the name of nationalism either. Here again you make up stuff about what I'm claiming. I do think that religion is a holdover the past and that it currently causes more problems than it solves. I don't consider it a positive thing. I never claimed this makes me better though. Rant on, you brought up religion and killing, not me. I'm not fond of religion even if people aren't killing each other in it's name. I never said anything about overturning anything or banning anything or whatnot. I just think we are better off without it.

No it's not! Those are not my premises, they are yours. I can make anyone look pretty bad if I get to make up their premises for them and then make a conclusion based on those premises. Stop putting words in my mouth that I did not say. Unfortunately that is true.