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arachnophilia
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Message 216 of 306 (268667)
12-13-2005 3:18 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by kjsimons
12-12-2005 10:15 PM


Re: God's game
Listen BLIND Faith, if god wants to do a miracle before me that bring it the fuck on!
seriously uncalled for.
The bible is a work written by man in a simpler time to explain the strange and scary world. Grow up and be an adult in the 21st century!
also uncalled for an totally inaccurate. had you read the bible, i think you'd find its world is a lot stranger and scarier than you'd think. angels? demons? evil-eyes? there's a lot of stuff designed to explain in the bible, sure, but mostly it's names and practices. and i don't see the people as any less advanced than we are today, except in the area of technology. i think it's an utter fallacy to assume that people only 2000 years ago were somehow primitive: we're still killing each other and justifying it with religion.

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arachnophilia
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Message 248 of 306 (268864)
12-13-2005 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by kjsimons
12-13-2005 9:01 AM


Re: God's game
I wouldn't be suprised that if one looked up the definition of "blind faith" that her picture would be there. Her posts are so berift of logic and reasoning that it is a wonder she is still allowed her.
and you think that ad-hominems help this how?
As far as the bible comments being uncalled for, who the heck are you to tell me that I can't criticise religion. To me religion is a fantasy and reasonable adults would be better off without it.
criticism and potshot one-liners are different games entirely. if you want to debate whether or not the bible is a fictional account, be my guest. but do it in another thread, and in such a way where you actually intend to defend your position with more than personal opinion.
criticize religion or the bible all you want. i do it quite regularly here. but namecalling and insults are not citicism.
we're still killing each other and justifying it with religion.
All the more reason to leave religion behind.
so what you're basically claiming is that YOU, not all of us, are more advanced? you're claiming that you not being religious makes you better somehow?
religion being used as a justification for killing people doesn't say anything about religion. ever hear of "social darwinism?" do you think eugenics and genocide justifies overturning darwin's theory of evolution? because that's the standard you're flippantly using here. you're putting the cart before the horse.

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arachnophilia
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Message 250 of 306 (268887)
12-13-2005 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by kjsimons
12-13-2005 4:14 PM


Re: God's game
I hate to be the one to tell you this but any position about the validity or not of any religion is only personal opinion.
not so. we could look at the bible objectively, determine its sources, influences, and contructions, and make EDUCATED pronouncements about its validity. we can do this other texts too, no matter what our personal opinion is on them.
so what you're basically claiming is that YOU, not all of us, are more advanced? you're claiming that you not being religious makes you better somehow?
Where they hell did I ever say that?! I would appreciate you not making things up. You were the one that brought up people killing each other in the name of religion and I replied. I also don't think it's a good idea to kill people in the name of nationalism either.
follow the logic.
premise: 2000 years agoe people used religion to justify genocide.
premise: people still use religion to justify genocide.
your conclusion: people would be better without religion.
premise: people would be better without religion.
premise: you are not religious
my conclusion: therefore, you are better than people with religion.
it's the logical implication of what you said.
so what you're basically claiming is that YOU, not all of us, are more advanced? you're claiming that you not being religious makes you better somehow?
Here again you make up stuff about what I'm claiming. I do think that religion is a holdover the past and that it currently causes more problems than it solves. I don't consider it a positive thing. I never claimed this makes me better though.
you certainly implied with the things that you did say, didn't you?
Rant on, you brought up religion and killing, not me. I'm not fond of religion even if people aren't killing each other in it's name. I never said anything about overturning anything or banning anything or whatnot. I just think we are better off without it.
you said that the violence was another reason why we'd be better off without it. i don't think the excuse bears much effect on the cause. i was just pointing out that people today are NOT more advanced.
This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 12-13-2005 06:07 PM

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arachnophilia
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Message 253 of 306 (268937)
12-13-2005 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 252 by kjsimons
12-13-2005 5:56 PM


Re: God's game
No it's not! Those are not my premises, they are yours.
you wrote:
quote:
To me religion is a fantasy and reasonable adults would be better off without it.
you are obviously advocating an anti-religious viewpoint. am i wrong to assuem that you are not religious?
do you fail to see how this can be condescending?

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