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Omnivorous
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Message 91 of 107 (269969)
12-16-2005 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by MangyTiger
12-15-2005 10:02 PM


Bad Ideas
MangyTiger writes:

And this doesn't suggest to you that drinking it in can sized amounts is a bad idea!?

Oh, sure it does. But it falls so far down my list of bad ideas, it will probably escape correction forever.


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Message 92 of 107 (269975)
12-16-2005 10:11 AM
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12-16-2005 9:59 AM


Moderation is a good philosophy in general
randman writes:

Anyone else here like beer?

I have known many people who enjoy beer. I used to drink it, although it is too bitter for me any more...plus I don't enjoy getting inebriated. I never had a problem with it, but I have known many who have. As we enjoy our holiday season, I want to encourage all of you to have a good holiday season and to be respectful of others. Don't have fun while ignoring the responsibility of moderation! :)

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Dr Jack
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Message 93 of 107 (269984)
12-16-2005 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by robinrohan
12-15-2005 4:00 PM


Re: Hop to it...
What's wrong with diet coke?

It has Aspartame in it.


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Message 94 of 107 (270193)
12-16-2005 8:44 PM
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12-15-2005 3:32 PM


quote:
as a general rule but not as an absolute rule. if there is overfunctioning of some paths within the brain structure it is entirely possible that some impairment is needed, and is in fact prescribed. that is what some medications do.

Well, there's a difference between how most theraputic psychoactive drugs affect the brain and how alcohol affects the brain.

Theraputic psychoactive drugs tend to be designed to pinpoint certain kinds of brain cells, or certain pathways, or certain receptors, whereas alcohol works in a much more broad fashion.

Alcohol affects all sorts of brain cells, all over the brain, willy nilly. It's the opposite of "pinpointed."

So, it's highly inaccurate to even roughly equate the effects of constant alcohol in the bloodstream on the brain to the effects of most theraputic psychoactive drugs on the brain.

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Thor
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Message 95 of 107 (270202)
12-16-2005 9:42 PM
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12-16-2005 10:11 AM


Re: Moderation is a good philosophy in general
Don't have fun while ignoring the responsibility of moderation!

Your warning comes too late. I had my work Christmas party last night. I've said it before and I'll probably say it again, I'm never drinking again...


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Message 96 of 107 (270205)
12-16-2005 9:48 PM
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12-16-2005 10:22 AM


Re: Hop to it...
It has Aspartame in it.

What's your point?


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Dr Jack
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Message 97 of 107 (270679)
12-19-2005 4:37 AM
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12-16-2005 9:48 PM


Re: Hop to it...
What's your point?

Aspartame is not a chemical I want floating around in my body. Among other things: it's an appetite enhancer (great idea in a diet drink, guys!) and it breaks down to form methanol and formaldehyde.


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Message 98 of 107 (270701)
12-19-2005 9:16 AM
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12-19-2005 4:37 AM


Re: Hop to it...
Aspartame is not a chemical I want floating around in my body. Among other things: it's an appetite enhancer (great idea in a diet drink, guys!) and it breaks down to form methanol and formaldehyde.

I didn't know that. Maybe I will switch to something else. Does anybody have any suggestions other than mango juice?


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Asgara
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Message 99 of 107 (270706)
12-19-2005 9:52 AM


Before everyone jumps on the anti-aspartame bandwagon, maybe we could ask for the detractors to start a new thread with their evidence of harmful effects.

http://www.aspartame.net/media/opinion/op_aspint.html


    
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Message 100 of 107 (270708)
12-19-2005 9:59 AM
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12-16-2005 8:44 PM


Theraputic psychoactive drugs tend to be designed to pinpoint certain kinds of brain cells, or certain pathways, or certain receptors, whereas alcohol works in a much more broad fashion.

which is naturally why prozac (etc) is just as likely to cause worsened depression and contribute to suicide. oh wait...


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nator
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Message 101 of 107 (270713)
12-19-2005 10:20 AM
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12-19-2005 9:16 AM


Re: Hop to it...
quote:
I didn't know that. Maybe I will switch to something else. Does anybody have any suggestions other than mango juice?

How about water? Sparkling water if you like the fizz.

If you need flavor, then put a squeeze of lemon or lime juice in it, or make iced tea, herbal or regular.

You know, stuff that isn't made in a factory.


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nator
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Message 102 of 107 (270715)
12-19-2005 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by macaroniandcheese
12-19-2005 9:59 AM


quote:
which is naturally why prozac (etc) is just as likely to cause worsened depression and contribute to suicide. oh wait...

My point wasn't that all theraputic psychoactive drugs are 100% perfectly effective or 100% perfectly safe for all people at all times.

My point was that RAZD's comparison of the effects of psychoactive theraputic drugs on the brain and the effects of alcohol on the brain is not a good one.

...which is what I explained in my last message.

To me, in light of what RAZD and I have been talking about, is seems as though you are saying that everybody who is depressed should not take any theraputic psychoactive medications and should instead just drink a lot of alcohol.

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Message 103 of 107 (270739)
12-19-2005 11:16 AM
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12-19-2005 10:28 AM


naturally.

that's an unfounded jump. i'm just saying that psychoactive drugs are unreliable.


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Omnivorous
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Message 104 of 107 (271068)
12-20-2005 10:30 AM


Homemade Brews
How about homemade brews? Anyone here do that?

Long ago I used to make dandelion wine, rose petal wine, hard cider/applejack (freezer distilled cider), and ginger beer, and hope to again in retirement.

Any brewers?


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Message 105 of 107 (271618)
12-22-2005 4:41 AM
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12-20-2005 10:30 AM


Re: Homemade Brews
I do!

Various beers, and cider.


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