PS: have you got a step-by-step guide as to your view on the 'whole story' similar to the one I gave a few posts back. Not by analogy but just plain english. Like I said - not necessarily for debate but just to see how you view the mechanics. If it such that 'try' will only be shown by seeing the overall workings then it would be good to deal with it in that way. What do you think?
To be specific, I would like to start with the nature of Adam in his original state before "sinning", the "fall" of Adam, and the "restoration" of Adam. More specifically, I would like to present data which will attempt to establish that Adam had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit from the very beginning.
If this can be agreed upon, I would then like to broaden the discussion outward to encompass humanity's condition in general in order to display that people who do not know Christ can nonetheless be moved by the Holy Spirit toward salvation.
A latter part of the discussion might revolve around a careful examination of what scripture and church history say in regards to the "indwelling" of the Holy Spirit -- and who can have this.
This message has been edited by Mr. Ex Nihilo, 12-17-2005 03:35 AM
This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 12-17-2005 08:01 AM
This time outline the theme you wish to discuss. A link back to the previous source topic might also be nice.
Added by edit: Also, via editing message 1, supply a topic title that reflecte the yet unknown topic theme (as I type this, the topic title is "Response to Iano", which is something I file under "worthless title").
This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 12-17-2005 02:22 AM
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