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Message 9 of 300 (272840)
12-26-2005 2:26 PM
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12-26-2005 3:43 AM


Not a miracle

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Message 11 of 300 (272847)
12-26-2005 2:49 PM
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12-26-2005 2:46 PM


Re: prove it
Actually it isnt up to me to prove it is not a miracle. It is up to you and those that profess it is to do the proving. YOu cannot prove soething is not. The onus is on those that claims something is sopmething to do the proving. YOu see here is the problem with a lot of this faith stuff. Fundies always insist on nonbelievers proving that soemthing isnt when those professing have to prove it is.

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Message 14 of 300 (272850)
12-26-2005 2:53 PM
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12-26-2005 2:50 PM


Re: prove it
You made the assertion it was in the first place. Up to you , bud
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Message 16 of 300 (272852)
12-26-2005 2:58 PM
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12-26-2005 2:57 PM


Re: prove it
Please red Asgara's post
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Message 19 of 300 (272855)
12-26-2005 3:05 PM
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12-26-2005 3:01 PM


Re: prove it
One point I had in posting this was just to point out that when people say miracles do not happen today as in the Bible, imo, they are disingenious or ignorant of the claims out there.
As you state these are claims, not proof. Therefore, those that say they are not happening are not disengenious or ignorant. They just have not seen proof that these so called miracles are miracles.
You are being fast and loose with facts and reality.

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Message 20 of 300 (272856)
12-26-2005 3:06 PM
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12-26-2005 3:02 PM


Re: prove it
You yourself had stated that it is a claim of a miracle, not a miracle.
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Message 28 of 300 (272887)
12-26-2005 4:03 PM
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12-26-2005 3:50 PM


Milk miracle debunked
Here is the science behind this supposed miracle
http://theory.tifr.res.in/.../trivia/ganapati-milk.html#expt
Another debunk of a miracle
The crying game | | The Guardian
I can find more

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Message 36 of 300 (273004)
12-26-2005 7:38 PM
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12-26-2005 7:31 PM


Re: prove it
If you expect us to take any f this as proof, please provide reference to these reports of this miracle.
It is absolutely hilarious that you demand proof from others, but always refuse to provide proof yourself. That really makes you look rather petty and silly.

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Message 39 of 300 (273014)
12-26-2005 7:57 PM
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12-26-2005 7:50 PM


Re: prove it how?
I am just trying to point out how ridiculous Randman is in what he expects from others but refuses to provide himself.
He can't have it both ways
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Message 54 of 300 (273216)
12-27-2005 11:29 AM
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12-27-2005 2:56 AM


Re: Absolute claims
He asserted "MIracles still happen today."
A statement of fact. A statement of fact demands proof. Then he lists various other supposed miracles to reinforce this claim. Therefore, demand of proof is not only reasonable to be asked for but should be insisted upon.

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Message 57 of 300 (273226)
12-27-2005 12:23 PM
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12-27-2005 11:33 AM


Re: Absolute claims
I guess I need to develop a better trolldar

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