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Man raised back to life in Jesus' name

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Asgara
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Message 13 of 300 (272849)
12-26-2005 2:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by randman
12-26-2005 2:50 PM

Re: prove it
Not a miracle is a rebuttal to the OP's existential claim.
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The onus in a discussion is on the existential claimant to provide the proof.
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Asgara
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12-26-2005 3:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by randman
12-26-2005 3:01 PM

Re: prove it
This quote is from your msg 15 in this thread.
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I readily admitted when I placed this in Coffee House that I wasn't trying to "prove" it was a miracle. I believe the story since I have seen miracles, and you do not.
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You readily admitted no such thing. You made an existential claim - "Man raised back to life in Jesus' name" is the title of your thread, the only commentary you made on the article was - "MIracles still happen today."
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These are existential claims. All you offered was a human interest article about an unconfirmed happening 3 years ago. No one has anything to substantially discuss until you provide evidence.
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12-26-2005 8:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 38 by arachnophilia
12-26-2005 7:50 PM

Re: prove it how?
But when one makes the claim of a miracle I would expect there to be more reports, doctors records...if something medically miraculous happened I would expect corroborating reports of it happening. Without this it is only a subjective claim. Miracle it may be, but it is just heresay.
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Asgara
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01-02-2006 3:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 110 by Phat
01-02-2006 3:02 PM

Re: prove it
The issue with miracles is verifying that there is no other explanation.
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If there is no verifying of details there is nothing to claim. The OP has a 2nd hand 3 year old story with no verifiable details. Where is the corraboration from others that were there, like the 1st responders that I would assume were working on this man the whole time?
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If a miracle is relative to an individual then don't attempt to use them as proof of anything to anyone else.
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