For crying out loud, I read that thread and I understood exactly what Trix and Percy did. If there was a misunderstanding on Trixie's and Percy's part, it's because it was not clear what Faith was stating. And even when Faith attempts to clarify her position it STILL was not clear to me what her position was/is. So NO, Faith was NOT clear in her stance - obviously.
None of Trixie's posts seemed at all goading or as if she was 'playing games.' All I saw was Trixie attempting to get to the heart of what Faith stated and what exactly she was or was not supporting.
The following (from
post 105) I found extremely confusing:
Faith writes:
I did NOT say "Follow God for better health" Percy, I quoted JESUS telling a man He healed to "Go and sin no more" and I referenced Proverbs where people are admonished to avoid sin and practice righteousness and ill or good health is often the consequence.
Yes this is my opinion ALSO, but the FIRST thing that has to be noticed is that I WAS JUST PROVIDING A CITATION, WHICH CRASHFROG EVEN NOTED, why can't you? This is what the Bible says. So that if someone is going to start arguing with me about what the Bible says they are arguing with the Bible and not with me.
She was just quoting the Bible AND she supports, but you can't argue her position because they are not her words but the Bible's. HUH???
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So basically:
1) Faith DOES believe one should follow god for better health,
2) which was suspected by Trixie after Faith posted the original Bible quote in
post 76.
3) To which Trixie responded by questioning Faith in
post 79;
4) But in
post 80, Faith implies she does not necessarily support what she posted (which we now know is not the case), which starts the confusion.
5) Then in
post 88, Faith states
"Again, I wasn't "saying" anything. I quoted the Bible. Referred to the Bible in the case of Proverbs. Didn't give my own view of anything. In fact I have to guess what you are talking about. You are imputing all kinds of ideas to me without quoting me, and most of them I don't recognize as my own.
again denying support of the statement.
6) Then in
post 98, Faith starts losing her patience and accuses Trixie of playing games because apparently Trixie is perfectly aware of what the Bible states (but as far as I can see, Trixie is attempting to clarify FAITH'S position, not the Bible's)...
Faith writes:
You perfectly well know that the Bible is full of God's will to cure the sick, so what kind of game are you playing anyway?
and being dishonest, manipulative, ...
Faith writes:
Please excuse me if I say that I can't think of this question as anything but absurd, disingenuous, dishonest, manipulative. If you know the Bible at all, you know perfectly well that it teaches BOTH. You perfectly well know that healing is a great part of the Biblical teaching, so why are you asking me if God "approves of us trying to mitigate his punishment?" You're playing games. If you didn't know that it teaches that disease is caused by sin I'm surprised, but by now evidence enough has been given to demonstrate that to you.
Why does Faith accuse Trixie of all this? All because Trixie does not believe exactly as Faith does. Because Trixie's understanding of the Bible is different. And because Trixie dares ask Faith to clarify her position, but Faith likes to hide behind the Bible. Faith supports what the Bible says, but since she didn't write those words, she doesn't need to defend them. Argue the Bible instead, apparently. Uh...okay...
Not ONCE did I see Trixie be anything but polite and ask simple logical questions congruent with the direction of the discussion. But Faith THINKS she knows what Trixie is up to, as if she can read minds.
This message has been edited by roxrkool, 01-06-2006 11:30 PM
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