Christmas music

This is so ridiculous. Nobody's even bothering to read what I wrote or think about it. No it is not subjective. And as far as being raised with Western classical music, I wasn't. I discovered it later. Not everyone is attracted to it, but there is a lot of expert judgment as to its superiority.This message has been edited by Faith, 12-27-2005 01:51 AM

I gave the evidence in my first posts, argued from my examples. I illustrated my point amply. Everyone disagrees, which is fine, but nobody gives any evidence to support the disagreement, it's all namecalling, I'm such a vile person for the opinion I hold. This thread has become a bashfest. Not fun any more.This message has been edited by Faith, 12-27-2005 05:37 PM

My point was that such music would not have been written for lesser subject matter, whether anyone pays attention to the subject matter or not.This message has been edited by Faith, 12-27-2005 05:48 PM

I disagree but you can prove me wrong I would think. I believe Western classical music achieved its heights because of its Christian inspiration, although its aesthetic achievements were also expressed in "secular" music -- in fact the Reformation inspired a greater appreciation of the natural and secular worlds, but all based on the revelation of Christ who reigns over it all. I would think this could be easily enough disproved somehow if it weren't so, going back to the origins of the musical forms, but there doesn't seem to me to be any other explanation for the heights reached by Western classical music than its development out of Christian worship of God.Taste enters into it when it comes to individual works, but it doesn't define the whole picture here.This message has been edited by Faith, 12-27-2005 06:14 PM

Now THAT is a bashfest.

Does anybody read? Oh never mind.

Maybe I haven't been clear but this is mostly a historical point. Since you bring in painting that too fits the pattern. Without getting into the evidence question, I've been contending that it was the celebration of Christ that originally inspired Western classical music, and also inspired it to the heights it reached. I've said also that there is certainly a lot of junk religious music (and that goes for the other arts as well), and that great "secular" music was a product of the tradition too. I theorized that the sublime themes of the religion inspired the sublime heights of the music. I thought I made it clear enough what I meant but I guess not, and I don't want to get into it further right now. I know classical music is a taste, but it's also a big part of the history of western civilization that can be studied. I didn't expect to run into so much objection to the idea that it all began in Christian worship as that is practically axiomatic to me. But nobody has given a historical reason to think otherwise.