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Author Topic:   Media Reform: Systemic Change & Individual Integrity
Omnivorous
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Message 16 of 19 (274159)
12-30-2005 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by nwr
12-30-2005 9:45 AM


Re: Omni's age
nwr writes:

You are a little older than I imagined, Omnivorous :D

I probably am, but not that much...still, it's too funny to fix.

"Yep, sonny, and then that Gutenberg feller came along and by golly he really shook things up! Next thing you know, people are being hanged for printing the Bible in Englsih and I don't know what all!"


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What I refuse to accept is your insistence that your beliefs about your beliefs constitute evidence in support of your beliefs.

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Omnivorous
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Message 17 of 19 (274167)
12-30-2005 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Theus
12-30-2005 9:50 AM


No grand strategy
Theus writes:

You win. Now, the key question is how do you go from such a philosophy to action?

Hi, Theus. I hope we all win.

I have no grand schemes. We can vote with our dollars as consumers of information; we can praise and support integrity; we can critique and protest propaganda and drivel.

Voting for candidates who have resisted or plan to resist media conglomeratization (on both sides of the aisle) and against those who promote it is one way; registering dismay with elected representatives over government-bought media deception is another.

Letters (and e-mail) to editors and reporters, to praise or challenge, have considerable impact. Individual voices do add up in Washington and in the marketplace.

I see that kind of media consumer activism working in two ways: to spotlight and reject the worst current abuses, and to inspire a discussion of systemic change to discourage them.


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Silent H
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Message 18 of 19 (274169)
12-30-2005 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Omnivorous
12-30-2005 9:29 AM


It is not merely that the great unwashed prefer junk news; the media have become propaganda organs for the propertied elite, and the present bread-and-circuses state of affairs is both a consequence and a distraction. This media whore wasn't summoned; s/he was pimped.

I agree in large part with this description. It is a vicious circle.

Poverty breeds ignorance which those seeking power use to breed more ignorance and so more poverty which breeds not only ignorance but a culture that desires more ignorance... a class which demands the blinders, carrot, and whip those in charge are more than willing to supply.

I like whores so I'm not so comfortable with the analogy, but I guess to go with it I'd revise it slightly to read:

This media whore wasn't just summoned, she was pimped as well.


holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Omnivorous
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Message 19 of 19 (274209)
12-30-2005 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Silent H
12-30-2005 11:08 AM


Point taken, holmes. I have known some righteous whores, and I definitely respect sex workers more than media cartel executives--and your's is a fairer statement about both.

Even if they do their jobs equally well, only one is likely to give you a fucking you'll truly enjoy, and it ain't the TV guy.


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