But the whole issue is what a miracle is....and you are attempting to frame a miracle in a verifiable empirical framework
I'm pretty sure Randman is claiming that it is some sort of divine intervention that has had an effect in the physical world.
How else can we verify a miracle is we do not use empirical methods? Rand wants us to belive it is a miracle, to do so requires an approach that would convince anyone that something unusual has happened.
whereas I am attempting to assert that a miracle can be relative to an individual.
Indeed it can, but it doens't mean that there isnt a natural explanation for it. I'm sure antibiotics were seen as miraculous, however, we know that there's nothing magical going on.
Besides....even if miracles were objective, there still is no way to "capture" the essence of a claimed supernatural event.
Are there such things as supernatural events?
I need not prove anything to anyone...and they, if they wish, can make jokes about I.P.U.'s and Bigfoot.
Sure, but whenever a believer on a public forum uses a miracle as some reason to believe in God, then it is a different matter.
Brian.