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Author Topic:   Man raised back to life in Jesus' name
Brian
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Message 4 of 300 (272776)
12-26-2005 4:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by randman
12-26-2005 3:43 AM


What is 2 plus 2?
Another case of 2 + 2 = 5.

Interesting that there are no eyewitness statements to support her claim.

Brian


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Brian
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Message 69 of 300 (274267)
12-30-2005 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by nator
12-29-2005 9:04 AM


Re: prove it
I know a guy that went up for a prayer meeting and came back without a brain, last I heard he was moderating on some Internet discussion board.

Brian.


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Brian
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Message 73 of 300 (274338)
12-31-2005 5:19 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Buzsaw
12-30-2005 10:57 PM


Re: Before You Blame God............
I pray, yes. I believe that if I pray for the oppressed and starving, God will bless me.

Typical Christian Buz, always looking after number one, always looking for that reward.

You should look to us atheists as an example of decent human beings. We help others out of the kindness of our hearts, because we care about all living things. We don't do good deeds so that we can get something out of it. Try helping someone because they are a fellow human being, and not because you want to get a reward, you'll feel much better about yourself.

Brian.


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Brian
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Message 87 of 300 (274601)
01-01-2006 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by nator
01-01-2006 7:34 AM


Re: prove it
We once got a guy 'drunk' by giving him lemonade and telling him it was vodka and lemonade. The bar owner just dabbed a little vodka along the edge of the glass now and then, the guy left the bar drunk! :laugh:

It is amazing what the human brain can do.

The miracles of God are only real in the minds of the gullible. They thank God for the miracle that 3 people out of 50 survived a plane crash, they never question why God allowed the plane to crash in the first instance.

Miracles, just like prayer, are only products of over active imaginations.

Brian.

PS, I did chuckle at your earlier post, millions dying every day but Rand's mate now has shiny gold teeth :laugh:

I wonder if his mate had prayed for gold teeth!


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Brian
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Message 99 of 300 (274928)
01-02-2006 4:45 AM
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01-01-2006 1:13 PM


Re: prove it
Are you saying it never happened?
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Brian
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Message 102 of 300 (274946)
01-02-2006 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by randman
01-01-2006 1:13 PM


Re: prove it
Brian, you guys just ridicule what you do not understand.

I must admit, it is difficult to understand how an adult can be so gullible, because that is all it is.

You do not offer any good reason for believing you, it is all simply your word. It isn't impossible that you have been conned, it happens all the time. Even Eusebius admitted that it is okay to lie about God if it helps to popularise Christianity.

Maybe you should be a little more sceptical, and question 'miracles' in the same way that you question evolution.

Brian.


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Brian
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Message 109 of 300 (275007)
01-02-2006 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Thugpreacha
01-02-2006 1:20 PM


Re: prove it
Hi P,

For someone to prove that this wasn't a miracle, doesn't it first have to be shown that it is a miracle?

You cannot disprove something that may not be what it claims to be.

Brian.


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Brian
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Message 112 of 300 (275031)
01-02-2006 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Thugpreacha
01-02-2006 3:02 PM


Re: prove it
But the whole issue is what a miracle is....and you are attempting to frame a miracle in a verifiable empirical framework

I'm pretty sure Randman is claiming that it is some sort of divine intervention that has had an effect in the physical world.

How else can we verify a miracle is we do not use empirical methods? Rand wants us to belive it is a miracle, to do so requires an approach that would convince anyone that something unusual has happened.

whereas I am attempting to assert that a miracle can be relative to an individual.

Indeed it can, but it doens't mean that there isnt a natural explanation for it. I'm sure antibiotics were seen as miraculous, however, we know that there's nothing magical going on.

Besides....even if miracles were objective, there still is no way to "capture" the essence of a claimed supernatural event.

Are there such things as supernatural events? ;)

I need not prove anything to anyone...and they, if they wish, can make jokes about I.P.U.'s and Bigfoot.

Sure, but whenever a believer on a public forum uses a miracle as some reason to believe in God, then it is a different matter.

Brian.


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