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Author Topic:   Another Test for Intelligent Design Proponents
joshua221 
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Message 61 of 151 (274764)
01-01-2006 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Parasomnium
01-01-2006 4:58 PM


Re: Your left figure (graph?)
Well, it seems that noone took a clear stance, and you had to spring it with explanation instead of questioning. I like it better that way I guess.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 62 of 151 (274765)
01-01-2006 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Nuggin
01-01-2006 1:30 AM


Re: Fear of Traps
It was a trap. She just sprung it.
Fortunately noone took a stance.
This message has been edited by prophex, 01-01-2006 06:55 PM

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 63 of 151 (274769)
01-01-2006 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by RAZD
01-01-2006 9:06 AM


Re: Thanks for the insults.
quote:
Again, this was another logical fallacy as used by Jaywill, where the argument is based on the ignorance of evidence that exists. Again, a logical fallacy doesn't mean that it is wrong, just that the argument presented does not have any validity and as such that it is irrelevant to whether or not it is right or wrong. In this case there is evidence to the contrary, so being ignorant of it while asserting a position that is contradicted by the evidence is rather foolish in a day and age when a little study will provide that information.
This is exactly the type of thing my original post was about...
quote:
ah, nope. the rest of your rant here is irrelevant. I always love it when someone tells me what I believe.
It's the impression I got.
Sorry about the post though. It was really messed up. I just get crazy when I see things like this. You know? It all goes back to Socrates. Whatever. I apologize.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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NosyNed
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Message 64 of 151 (274773)
01-01-2006 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by joshua221
01-01-2006 6:55 PM


Re: Fear of Traps
Fortunately noone took a stance.
Exactly!
The IDists rarely take a stance. And never a consistent one. THAT is the point.

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Nuggin
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Message 65 of 151 (274787)
01-01-2006 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by joshua221
01-01-2006 6:55 PM


Re: Fear of Traps
It was a trap. She just sprung it.
Ooh, she's a tricky one, trying to get people to own up to what they believe before they ask that it be taught in schools.

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joshua221 
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Message 66 of 151 (275048)
01-02-2006 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by NosyNed
01-01-2006 7:03 PM


Re: Fear of Traps
quote:
The IDists rarely take a stance. And never a consistent one. THAT is the point.
Intelligent is beyond two graphs, because what God has created is.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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Message 67 of 151 (275049)
01-02-2006 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by joshua221
01-01-2006 7:01 PM


Re: Thanks for the insults.
accepted and reciprocated.

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NosyNed
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Message 68 of 151 (275069)
01-02-2006 4:55 PM
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01-02-2006 4:05 PM


A crystal clear explanation
Intelligent is beyond two graphs, because what God has created is.
Oh, that explans a lot. A lot of what I have no clue.

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Trump won 
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Message 69 of 151 (275123)
01-02-2006 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by joshua221
01-02-2006 4:05 PM


Re: Fear of Traps
Intelligent Design I m brbros name
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Parasomnium
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Message 70 of 151 (275433)
01-03-2006 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by joshua221
01-02-2006 4:05 PM


Is this intelligent design too?
Here's another "trap" for you:
If intelligent design is such a wonderful explanation for what we see in nature, can intelligent design please explain the following?

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joshua221 
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Message 71 of 151 (275434)
01-03-2006 5:09 PM
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01-03-2006 5:06 PM


Re: Is this intelligent design too?
Corruption
Original Sin
God's World Changed

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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Parasomnium
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Message 72 of 151 (275437)
01-03-2006 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by joshua221
01-03-2006 5:09 PM


Re: Is this intelligent design too?
The Intelligent Design movement won't be too pleased with that answer, Prophex. Intelligent Design isn't religion, remember? It's "science".
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joshua221 
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Message 73 of 151 (275442)
01-03-2006 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Parasomnium
01-03-2006 5:11 PM


Re: Is this intelligent design too?
quote:
Intelligent Design isn't religion, remember? It's "science".
God is beyond science, how could it be about science?

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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Message 74 of 151 (275447)
01-03-2006 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by joshua221
01-03-2006 5:15 PM


Re: Is this intelligent design too?
because they are not naming a god, though most of them are christians, by their theory it could be some unknown god

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Parasomnium
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Message 75 of 151 (275608)
01-04-2006 2:47 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by joshua221
01-03-2006 5:15 PM


Prophex, do your homework first
Prophex,
Why are we talking to each other about intelligent design? You are making it painfully clear that you know very little about the subject. Before you discuss these things with evolutionists, you need to talk to Michael Behe, William Dembski, Philip Johnson, Alvin Plantinga and the people of the Discovery Institute. And maybe it wouldn't hurt if you read the Wedge Document.
See you when you're done.
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