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Author Topic:   Human Origins: Let's Talk Mitochondrial Eve
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 8 of 29 (273891)
12-29-2005 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Nuggin
12-24-2005 6:51 PM


Re: Let me put it this way
The OP writes:
Even if this were a small ancestral group instead of one woman, wouldn't that rule out fossil forms that existed much earlier than 200,000 years ago as our direct ancestors? If there is a substantial gap between our own species and the nearest fossil ancestor, would that not pose a problem to Darwinian gradualism? In other words, if H. erectus became extinct 250,000 years ago, from whom did we come from?
Nuggin responds writes:
Look at it this way:
You are decended from your mother. You are also decended from your grandmother. You are also decended from your great grandmother. Etc.
Let's say that you are a red head. That your mother is a red head. That her mother is a red head.
We can say that you are decended from your grandmother, and that that is where you get your red hair. However, we can just as easily say that you are also decended from your great great great grandmother.
The fact that your grandmother is closer in line than your great great great grandmother doesn't mean that you are not decended from both.
In this case - the "red hair" is the mDNA we can trace back to M-Eve. However, that doesn't mean that Eve's mother is not also a relative. Nor does it mean that Eve's great great great grandmother is not also a relative.
You completely dodged and evaded the aqua-blue box point/question.
Why ?
Inability to refute.
Where is the links/EVIDENCE between Erectus and us ?
Evolutionists can assert like crazy what supposedly happened millions of years ago (because their assertions are not falsifiable) but are tongue tied concerning recent anthropological ancestry.
Genesis is literally true.
History shows the farther back in calendar time = the more intelligent homo genus was. This falsifies the reverse claims of the Evolutionary scenario in its tracks. In response Darwinists must deny the intelligence increase lest sudden Adam, created ultra-intelligent, is seen as true.
The irony of also using red-heads in your dodge: do you know where the only red-race (Irish) originates from ?
Answer: read the description of David in your Bible.
Now here is the truth about Mitochondrial Eve:
http://www.nwcreation.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mitochondr...
According to Codex Alexandrinus (5th century), one of the three Great Uncial mss, genealogic calculations place the creation of Adam at 5100 BC. [source: Dr. Adam Rutherford]
In ancient history matters, 1500 years is nothing, that is the difference between the links 6500 and the Codex chronology of 5100 BC.
The point is we are in the ballpark while evolution is in outer space suppressing the truth just like the Bible predicted:
Romans 1:18 (New KJV)
"....who suppress the truth in unrighteousness."
Ray

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 10 of 29 (274198)
12-30-2005 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Nuggin
12-29-2005 7:29 PM


Re: Let me put it this way
Nuggin writes:
It's assuming that evolution is multiregional and gradual. I have seen evidence for neither.
This is the only thing you wrote worth commenting on.
Evolution not gradual ?
This is tantamount to flat earth beliefs.
This places you in wacko land amongst your own.
Time and space would fail me for all the Darwinian authority quotes I could paste to humiliate you for your ridiculous comment.
The reason I don't is because to do so would be, like I said, attempting to prove the uncontested (flat earth), and most importantly to do so would cast doubt on that which there is no doubt: Darwinists claim evolution is a painstakingly gradual process.
Why the Admins have not booted your stupid ass to Boot Camp is beyond me and only shows how "open minded" they are - so open they stand for nothing.
You will undoubtedly act like nothing has happened or spilt hairs or any number of evo ass covering nonsense that your kind does when they stick their foot in their mouth. Punct. Equil. is also viciously attacked by every Darwinian quarter since it was published.
Happy New Year Nuggin - you surely need it.
Ray

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 13 of 29 (275873)
01-04-2006 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by AdminNosy
12-30-2005 1:20 PM


Re: Happy New Year to you too --- you're suspended.
Your suspension was correct.
I apologize for attacking Administration.
Ray Martinez

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