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Originally posted by forgiven:
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Originally posted by Chara:
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Originally posted by schrafinator:
Something is unknowable if we cannot detect it with our senses.
This is of course presuming that we can trust our senses.
good pernt chara... and of course i trust mine... schraf, i'm sure, trusts hers... however, therein lies a problem eh?... chara, do you remember elijah and his servant? on the mountain? the servant couldn't understand elijah's lack of fear, given the army coming against them... and elijah asked God to give his servant "sight"...
there are senses and there are senses... i guess we could only accept the senses that the largest number of people say they have... leave it up to a vote, as it were
Now this is were it hurts that pride. Or else you can deny the existance of other senses. Realizing that you may be intellectually advanced but spiritually barely even a fetus. Until that part of you is nurtured I guess it's easy enough to say it doesn't exist. But then again this is the same as me saying "i don't understand evolution and therefore it doesn't exist". There is evidence on my life of the reserection of Jesus Christ, it's not sufficient for you so you dismiss it. There is evidence to support fluke life, it's not sufficient for me so I dismiss it.
Something to think about here, when someone marches into a scientific debate at starts spouting off when they aren't at all trained or qualified, how much thought do you give to what they say?
Now if someone who doesn't believe in God comes after your faith spouting who did what in the name of what therefore your faith is not credible, though all they have is a percieved view of what you believe, do you give to much to what they say?
Maybe, just maybe that person is a little more in the know about that faith than you are?
I'm trying to avoid being condescending or preachy here, I'm just saying if someone is claiming a personal relationship with God, that maybe they have an extra "sense" or a divinely given "understanding".