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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 61 of 72 (261294)
11-19-2005 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Brian
11-19-2005 2:24 PM


Re: Why AdminRandman?
From message 22 of this thread:
I nominated Willowtree as an admin about a year ago and I was over ruled because he 'took up too much admin time!!" he hasn't taken a fraction of the time that Randman has.

So could one expect an atheist-Darwinist to say anything else about a theist-creationist?

Brian.

But my observation was strictly confined to Schraf's comment about Randman.

Your blistering of our new Admin was the epitome of unambiguity, however. How do we know that you and Percy are not playing "good Admin/bad Admin" (even though you are actually an ex) ? :)

Percy replaced a creo MIA with a creo.

I was also wondering if your laser eye surgery was successful ? If so will it cure your inability to see the errors in your ancient history arguments ?

Brian I love ya.

A long while back you did something for me that I have never forgotten nor will I ever. I love you.

Ray


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nator
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Message 62 of 72 (261296)
11-19-2005 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Cold Foreign Object
11-19-2005 2:06 PM


Re: Why AdminRandman?
quote:
This comment is easily explained by the fact that its author is an atheist-Darwinist.

I'm not an athiest.

It is actually most easily explained by the fact that Randman is a dishonest debater.

I can think of several Creationists here that I would nominate to be an admin before randman.

quote:
Could one expect an atheist-Darwinist to say anthing else about a theist-Creationist ?

Sure.

Iano, while I disagree with much of what he claims, seems to be a kind chap and does a good job debating in an honest fashion. He doesn't cut and run, he tries to address points rather than avoiding or ignoring them, and when he doesn't know or doesn't understand something, he says so. I have a lot of respect for that.


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Brian
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Message 63 of 72 (261305)
11-19-2005 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Cold Foreign Object
11-19-2005 3:02 PM


Re: Why AdminRandman?
How do we know that you and Percy are not playing "good Admin/bad Admin"

Well, Percy wanted to play the 'good admin' but I wasn't having it ;)

I was also wondering if your laser eye surgery was successful ?

I'm not having it until next Saturday.

If so will it cure your inability to see the errors in your ancient history arguments ?

Well, if the laser setting is too high and happens to burn away half my brain I might see some errors!

If the setting is ultra high and burns away my entire brain I may even become a theist-creationist :p

A long while back you did something for me that I have never forgotten nor will I ever.

You are very welcome mate, after all we are all Jock Tamson's bairns.

Take it easy.

Brian.

PS, hopefully, in the new year we can pick up our Judges discussion.


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randman 
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Message 64 of 72 (261308)
11-19-2005 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by mick
11-19-2005 2:39 PM


Re: welcome randman
Not anti-mod, but I don't think coffee house topics need to be vetted by mods first as proposed topics.
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mick
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Message 65 of 72 (261339)
11-19-2005 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by randman
11-19-2005 4:14 PM


Re: welcome randman
fair enough. "bring 'em on" is the phrase that pops into my head right now.

Thanks for volunteering to be a moderator - hope it is useful.

Best wishes,

Mick


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MangyTiger
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Message 66 of 72 (261427)
11-20-2005 1:16 AM


Welcome
It would be churlish not to wish you well in your new role.

I hope the misgivings I share with some others are misplaced.


I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then
    
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 67 of 72 (277851)
01-10-2006 6:17 PM


Good Job Randman
EvC Administration was unable to coerce AdminRandman into doing their dirty work against Creationists in exchange for peer recognition.

His groundless removal speaks volumes to objective persons on both sides of the debate.

I have always maintained EvC is the best debate board on the Net. They never erase posts unless absolutely necessary and Creationists can be heard.

What is wrong with EvC is what is wrong with all Darwinian controlled
boards: Claiming an objectivity that does not exist. It would be better to simply say, "we are biased for evolution" instead of asserting otherwise and betraying false witness. Blindfolded moderation is impossible.

EvC rejection of AdminRandman demonstrates his rightness because EvC is controlled by Darwinists. Your approval would have proved his wrongness.

Ray Martinez


    
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 68 of 72 (277860)
01-10-2006 6:38 PM


Groundless as charged.
How come EvC did not make a case against AdminRandman via posting what he did wrong as to warrant removal as an Admin ?

See previous post.

Ray


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AdminNWR
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Message 69 of 72 (277906)
01-10-2006 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Cold Foreign Object
01-10-2006 6:38 PM


Re: Groundless as charged.
How come EvC did not make a case against AdminRandman via posting what he did wrong as to warrant removal as an Admin ?

There was not any need to make a case. AdminRandman has not been accused of any malfeasance.

The reasons that AdminRandman was removed as administrator were given here.

We are all different. Some people are good at one thing, and some are good at another. Some people make good moderators, and others don't. There are several evos here who would probably be terrible moderators. And there are some creos who could probably be very good moderators, but just don't want to do it. Percy concluded that randman would not make a good moderator. It is not any reflection on randman that moderation at evcforum doesn't seem to be one of the things he is good at.

Incidently, I agreed with Percy's judgement on this. And I am glad that Percy restored member randman. Welcome back, randman, even if you are no longer an Admin.

(edit - correct posting id to AdminNWR)

This message has been edited by AdminNWR, 01-10-2006 09:21 PM


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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 70 of 72 (277917)
01-10-2006 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by AdminNWR
01-10-2006 9:04 PM


Re: Groundless as charged.
There was not any need to make a case. AdminRandman has not been accused of any malfeasance.

Brazen double speak.

We are all dumb and needed the great light of your comment above to guide us out of this confusing time.

The reasons that AdminRandman was removed as administrator were given here[disabled].

Like I pointed out there was no case made.

Incidently, I agreed with Percy's judgement on this.

Shocking revelation. Will there be an earthquake in Los Angeles in 2006 ?

Does the fact that you are a Darwinist have anything to do with your predictable opinion concerning the ousting of a Creationist Admin ?

Being a Darwinist your views about this matter have as much objective weight as your Mother's.

Are YOU not an Admin yourself ?

The level of intelligence in this post of yours is insulting to any level of intelligence. You owe the board an apology since your post was not late night.

Ray


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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 71 of 72 (277928)
01-10-2006 10:38 PM


AdminRay
I am going to grant myself temporary Admin status.

I will float around the board and make rulings. Participant compliance will be voluntary of course.

You want to see objectivity ?

I will show you objectivity.

AdminRay


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Brian
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Message 72 of 72 (278067)
01-11-2006 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Cold Foreign Object
01-10-2006 10:38 PM


Re: AdminRay
Hi Ray,

As you know, I have suggested before that you become an admin, but apparently not everyone agrees with me. Which is confusing given the behaviour of Rand.

Anyway,

You want to see objectivity ?

I will show you objectivity.

I hope you do and prove me correct.

Brian.


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