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doctrbill
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Message 3 of 33 (27810)
12-24-2002 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by funkmasterfreaky
12-24-2002 3:16 PM


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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky: I don't think we will ever lose the memories of our life here on earth, we will remember the horror of sin and it's terrible consequence and burden.
How can it be "heaven" if we are haunted by horrible and terrible memories?
db

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doctrbill
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From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Message 28 of 33 (28043)
12-28-2002 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by funkmasterfreaky
12-26-2002 4:36 AM


You wrote:
quote:
posted by funkmasterfreaky: ... we will remember the horror of sin ...
To which I replied:
quote:
posted by doctrbill: How can it be "heaven" if we are haunted by horrible and terrible memories?
quote:
funkmasterfreaky: I didn't say anything about being haunted by sin ...
Neither did I. You said, "... we will remember the horror of sin ..."
If our minds are inhabited by horror, how is that not haunting?
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funkmasterfreaky: ... rather exactly the opposite.
I don't understand. How is a horrible memory of sin the exact opposite of sin?
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funkmasterfreaky:
Could you ever appreciate summer if there was no winter?
You seem to be suggesting that in order to appreciate heaven, there must be sin there, or at least a horrible (thus haunting) memory of sin. Is that your meaning?
db

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doctrbill
Member (Idle past 2791 days)
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From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Message 29 of 33 (28044)
12-28-2002 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Gzus
12-27-2002 8:42 AM


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Originally posted by Gzus:
Take water for example. Water is water not bater. But do we appreciate this, no! ...
I must say that I appreciate "bater" very much. I appreciate the fact that it is neither the opposite nor the antithesis of water but stands unique unto itself. My personal experience has been that bater possesses qualities both desirable and in some respects uncontrollable. My advice then, to others who find bater interesting, is that they take the mysterious matter in hand and attempt to master it.
db

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doctrbill
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From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Message 31 of 33 (28078)
12-29-2002 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by funkmasterfreaky
12-29-2002 2:32 AM


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Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky:
Hopefully I've been clearer this time.
Yes, you have. But I keep getting the impression that there is a scripture, often applied to life in paradise, which suggests that there will be no memory of the past. I will meditate on this and if key words come to mind I will search for it.
Am I correct in assuming that you require religious doctrines to be based upon the revelation of holy scripture? Or are appealing traditions of uncertain origin adequate for establishment of your faith?
I also assume that personal experience plays an important part in your religious life; but considering the subject (future life in "heaven") I expect personal experience is lacking. Yes?
db

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