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Author Topic:   Should this guy have served time?
jar
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Message 5 of 112 (280112)
01-19-2006 10:06 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by randman
01-19-2006 9:56 PM


Re: she is pro-gay
I don't think it really matters in context here. Her stance towards "human rights" in advocating gay marriage, etc,...is pretty clear. So the question remains if openly advocating for human rights could be perceived as prejudicial.

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Message 7 of 112 (280116)
01-19-2006 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by randman
01-19-2006 10:14 PM


Re: she is pro-gay
It looks too cozy to me.
Yup, we know that. But when has a concern for human rights and against oppression been wrong?
In addition to being a issue totally unrelated to the case in question, her support of human rights as opposed to oppression is something that ALL Christians should applaud. We need more folk on the bench supporting human rights.

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jar
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Message 16 of 112 (280132)
01-19-2006 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by randman
01-19-2006 10:42 PM


Trying to change the subject again I see.
Your OP questions whether or not a Judge who supports human rights and opposes oppression should recuse herself from a case involving possible criminal misconduct. I see no possible reason for such an action. We need more judges that support human rights, not fewer.

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jar
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Message 19 of 112 (280138)
01-19-2006 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by randman
01-19-2006 10:58 PM


Re: Trying to change the subject again I see.
Whether or not the person deserves to serve time cannot be determined, and I have no opinion on that. As you were told, oh, around message 2 IIRC, we don't have sufficient information to make such a judgement.
And Gay Rights ARE Human Rights. Are you opposed to human rights?

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Message 23 of 112 (280143)
01-19-2006 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by randman
01-19-2006 11:11 PM


Re: Trying to change the subject again I see.
That may not be the dumbest post I've seen at EvC, but it certainly is a contender. How 'bout we parse it?
Do you think adult homosexual men should legally be allowed to have sex with consensual male teens or not?
Why, other than overt homophobia, did you insert the word "homosexual"?

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Message 28 of 112 (280148)
01-19-2006 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by randman
01-19-2006 11:18 PM


Re: Trying to change the subject again I see.
Please point out the redundancy?
Here is your quote once again:
randman writes:
Do you think adult homosexual men should legally be allowed to have sex with consensual male teens or not?
You inserted the word homosexual. It would not matter if it were an adult male with a minor male, and adult male with a minor female, and adult female with a minor male or an adult female with a minor female.
The issue was one of sex between an adult and a minor, and the adult was found guilty.
Your insertion of homesexuality, and your absolutely absurd insertion of whether a judge who supports human rights should recuse herself from a case involving criminal behavior is simply an attempt by you to insert your own belief that some people do not deserve human rights.
The case was resolved.
Everyone deserves equal rights.
Your posts promoting oppresion of individuals are totally off topic and but a reflection of the bigotry of the Christian Conservative Movement.

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jar
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Message 32 of 112 (280152)
01-19-2006 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by randman
01-19-2006 11:33 PM


Re: Trying to change the subject again I see.
Well, the thread is here for the important audience, the real audience, the readers. They will have a record and can make informed judgements on the techniques and motives of the partcipants.
You had an answer IIRC on Message 2 as to whether or not the judgement was reasonable. To repeat what has been said many times, we cannot judge based on a newspaper snippet, particularly from a source like WND.
You also persist in calling the judge pro-gay when that is certainly not the case. She has never supported gays having rights supperior to anyone else or some special status. What she does support is human rights, equal rights.
Do you support human rights randman?

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Message 36 of 112 (280157)
01-19-2006 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by randman
01-19-2006 11:48 PM


Please read what I write.
Does this type of thing deserve prison or jail-time?
See Message 2 and all the other times you've been told the same thing.
Now...
do you support human rights, randman?

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jar
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Message 42 of 112 (280163)
01-20-2006 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by randman
01-19-2006 11:55 PM


randman once again misrepresents what people say.
I do, but I do not think, as you apparently do, that it is necessarily a human right for gay men to have sex with male teens. I say "as you do" because I think the only logical conclusion for your reluctance to answer forthrightly is that you must think it is a human right.
Please point out where I have said that adults having sex with minors is a human right. If you cannot point out where I have said that, please retract your assertion and apologize.

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jar
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Message 44 of 112 (280165)
01-20-2006 12:27 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by randman
01-20-2006 12:22 AM


Re: randman once again misrepresents what people say.
Waiting for you to either support your assertion or retract it and appologize.
randman, there is no excuse for your complete disregard for forum guidelines and even basic honesty.

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jar
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Message 48 of 112 (280169)
01-20-2006 12:38 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by randman
01-20-2006 12:33 AM


Re: randman once again misrepresents what people say.
Waiting for you to either support your assertion or retract it and appologize.
randman, there is no excuse for your complete disregard for forum guidelines and even basic honesty.
It is amazing when you can pretend that the questions in the OP have not been answered time after time, yet you feel free to make assertions about what others say.
Please see Message 2
Now when are you going to support your assertions?

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Message 50 of 112 (280172)
01-20-2006 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by randman
01-20-2006 12:41 AM


Re: Mods?
randman, I am still waiting for you to either support your assertions or retract them and apologize.

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jar
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Message 59 of 112 (280181)
01-20-2006 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by randman
01-20-2006 12:48 AM


Re: Mods?
randman
You have made a specific assertion.
randman writes:
I do, but I do not think, as you apparently do, that it is necessarily a human right for gay men to have sex with male teens. I say "as you do" because I think the only logical conclusion for your reluctance to answer forthrightly is that you must think it is a human right.
I asked you quite reasonably to support your assertion.
jar writes:
Please point out where I have said that adults having sex with minors is a human right. If you cannot point out where I have said that, please retract your assertion and apologize.
Now you have implied that I believe that adults having sex with minors is a human right. I see no reason why you do not either provide the specific quotes where I said that or simply admit that you were once again misrepresenting what others say.

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jar
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Message 73 of 112 (280312)
01-20-2006 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Chiroptera
01-20-2006 1:16 PM


Re: she is pro-gay
Sure hope the judge has an opinion on Human Rights and Justice. LOL

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