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Message 15 of 83 (280422)
01-20-2006 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by mick
01-20-2006 9:27 PM


Perhaps we just need to wait for the US economy to screw up, so ...
That probably won't take long, the way Bush is heading.

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Message 30 of 83 (282372)
01-29-2006 7:00 PM
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01-29-2006 6:38 PM


Re: here's your stats in context.
Home ownership has never been higher, ever, in American history. Your thesis is just flat out wrong.
If a person (or family) has purchased a house, and has 20% equity in that house, does that count as one owned house or as 0.20 owned houses?
I suggest this is an important point, because mortgage lenders are requiring smaller down payments and slower repayment schedules than was once demanded.

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Message 38 of 83 (282407)
01-29-2006 9:49 PM
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01-29-2006 9:02 PM


Re: here's your stats in context.
According to the census bureau their data includes in homeownership with any mortgage on the property as 100% owned -- there could be zero down and it would count.
Thus those figures are meaningless with respect to ownership rates.

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Message 57 of 83 (282585)
01-30-2006 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by randman
01-30-2006 12:03 PM


Re: Left leaning
You'd think a good understanding of economics would make academic types lean right, towards a free market and trade, and not the other way around.
A good understanding of history would lead academics to understand that rightist economic policies have been repeatedly tried in the past, and have resulted in disasterous failures. "Tulipmania", "The South Sea Bubble", and the 1929 crash all come to mind.

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Message 58 of 83 (282588)
01-30-2006 1:11 PM
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01-30-2006 12:14 PM


Re: Left leaning
You think most upperm middle class to wealthy people, professionals like doctors, lawyers, accountants, and small business people, are more poorly educated?
They are more narrowly educated.

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Message 64 of 83 (282599)
01-30-2006 1:31 PM
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01-30-2006 1:12 PM


Re: Left leaning
Than scientists?
Yes.
Most physicians, accountants, lawyers take a more narrowly focussed curriculum than most scientists. They possibly have, on the average, lower IQs that scientists, but that's mainly a guess.
Sure, there are exceptions.
My experience suggests: Liberal arts and science faculty tend to be liberal, economics faculty tend toward libertarianism, other business school faculty tend to be a little more conservative than the liberal arts faculty but not to the extreme of Republican party of today. I suspect that education college faculty also tend to be a little more conservative than their liberal arts colleagues, but my evidence is very limited on education colleges.

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Message 66 of 83 (282602)
01-30-2006 1:36 PM
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01-30-2006 1:30 PM


Re: Left leaning
no no. scientists are very narrowly educated. they only study science and maybe environmental or intellectual property law. the most widely studied scientist you're going to get is a biologist, cause they have to study chemistry, too.
At least in the U.S.A., most science is taught as part of a curriculum in liberal arts and sciences. Liberal arts colleges typically require a broad based undergraduate curriculum.
Sure, once they get to grad school, what they study is more narrowly focussed.

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