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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Another thought. If monogamy is beneficial should we support monogamy amongst the homosexual population by endorsing gay marriage ? WOuld that be a "Biblical" thing to do ?
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
I have purposely cited Hep B for this topic as it is the relevant version to the topic at hand. It is transmitted via mucous membrane or blood, the majority of incidences being sexual related.
Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK If monogamy is beneficial should we support monogamy amongst the homosexual population by endorsing gay marriage ? WOuld that be a "Biblical" thing to do ? The topic question pertains to the three practices, one of which is sodomy. This catagory includes the practice of monogamous homosexuality. Would abstinence from this practice reduce the incidence of one or more of the sexual diseases in the list significantly, say in the US? Note the following question I posed to Jar in message 19 where I specified monogamous heterosexual practice. Buz: Message 19: "Would you agree that monogamous heterosexual practice reduces the incidence of these diseases?" Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Monogamy works to prevent the transmission of STDs regardless of the sex acts performed within the relationship. Thus I repeat the question of whether it would be in line with your Biblical teaching to promote monogamy through homosexuals through the institution of "gay marriages".u
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Crashfrog writes: Undesired pregnancy is an STD, if you ask me. Strawman: Pregnancy is not a disease. Buz: "Would you agree that monogamous heterosexual practice reduces the incidence of these diseases?"
Crashfrog writes: .....avoiding sexual contact with infected persons is the only way to prevent contracting these diseases. Conflating that with monogamy is dangerous at best. Scientific fact: The more partners you engage in sex with, the greater your chance of STD. Simple math. The more of a rabbitry society becomes, the faster STD moves. Buz: Given that the vast majority of aids infections are MSM, would you agree that MSM sexual abstinence would greatly reduce incidence of aids on the long haul?
Crashfrog writes: : MSM? I don't understand. How about MMS? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Guessing that you mean Male to Male Sex (but wondering why you'd waste time not making that clear) I'd remind you that you have been told that this is wrong. (or at least it's been posted here often enough that you should know it.).
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
The question as per the topic OP is whether abstinence of adultry, fornication and sodomy diminishes STDs. I prefer not to have the thread stray into subtopics pertaining to the three practices.
To answer your question briefly, the less partners involved in any of these three practices would, of course, diminish the risk. To argue the pros and cons of gay marriage should be a separate topic which I don't want to get into in this thread. Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
by less risk i mean that if it holds any risk then it is risky. if you don't like risky, live in a bubble and cut off your penis. the rest of us will deal with what the cdc suggests.
if you wait until you're married to have sex with your ten year old card-carrying, certified viginal wife but lick toilet seats for a living, you're going to get hepatitis and/or something equally nasty. the laws god gave in the old testament were for personal purity, not hygiene or health. suggesting that they were divinely inspired because god knew that the best way to protect yourself from disease is to not bone guys and only bone one chick ever is foolish. because there are far more ways to catch these diseases.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
My apologies for wasting your time, Ned. I got the abreviation mixed up and it appears that for some, the context wasn't enough to figure it out.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
try reading what i wrote mr. one track mind.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Crass post not worthy of comment!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Ben writes: If you reduce the incidence of STDs before marriage, then (assuming monogamy in marriage), you would reduce the incidence in marriage. Less partners would have the disease, so less partners would transmit the disease to their partners. I.e. less incidence in the overall population of married people. At least, that's what my little brain is telling me. (Jar: "they will do nothing to minimize the initial exposure to STDs from non-sexual sources.") Same thing goes here too. If you have less people carrying STDs (because you reduced sexual transmission), then you have less people possibly transmitting an STD from a non-sexual source. You'd have less blood donors who might have STDs, for example. Or less kissing partners with STDs. You've hit the nail on the head, Ben. This is why some cultures and families have little or no incidence of STDs and others are plagued with them. The culture in some very promiscuous African nations verify this as well as some conservative cultures. 1. Under OT Levitical law, all three of these diseases carried a capital punishment condemnation for those under that authority and in that culture. It can be assumed that STD's for that culture were rare relative to the incidence of STD worldwide today. 2. Likely in fundamentalist Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, the incidence of STDs would also be relatively low. Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
and yet you do.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Pregnancy is not a disease. If having an unwanted tapeworm or an unwanted bacteria or an unwanted virus is a disease, then an unwanted pregnancy is a disease. What is a disease, if not a lifeform in your body that you don't want there?
The more partners you engage in sex with, the greater your chance of STD. Simple math. Simple logic - you can't get a disease from someone who doesn't have one, and you can be infected by your first and only sexual partner. Avoiding fluid exchange with infected persons is the only way to prevent the spread of an STD. How one chooses to do that is entirely up to them.
Given that the vast majority of aids infections are MSM, would you agree that MSM sexual abstinence would greatly reduce incidence of aids on the long haul? I still don't understand what you mean by MSM. Is that a code for "hetersexual acts between men and women?" Since that's the only thing you could be referring to by saying "the vast majority of AIDS infections."
How about MMS? How about you tell me what the hell you're talking about? Juggling the letters around doesn't tell me what you mean.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The question as per the topic OP is whether abstinence of adultry, fornication and sodomy diminishes STDs. What has been proven, medically, to reduce the spread of these diseases is access to prophilaxis and knowledge about the medical and sexual history of your potential partners. What has never been proven to work - quite the opposite - is abstinence. Partly because, for one in four women for instance, "choosing abstinence" doesn't translate into not having sex with a "partner" of unknown medical/sexual history.
To answer your question briefly, the less partners involved in any of these three practices would, of course, diminish the risk. And yet, empirically, it doesn't. Funny old world, isn't it?
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