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robinrohan Inactive Member |
So he is a liar, then? The God I don't believe in, Mark, doesn't exist. If you don't exist, you can't lie.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
I used to have an innocent answer- GRAVITY WAVES What's a gravity wave? I never heard of it.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Is that correct? Correct. They must accept it logically. Emotionally, of course, they might not accept it.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But couldn't one believe in an incorporeal God, but not in an incorporeal soul? I suppose so. There's no reason for such a belief, however. The origin of religion is our feeling of incorporeality about ourselves.
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
Could you explain ? Germ theory supercedes the supernatural explanation that God made you ill, the devil made you sick, or evil spirits possessed your body. Germ theory rejects the supernatural explanation.
To paraphrase robinrohan: quote:
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Correct. They must accept it logically. Well, that's pretty much just an unsupported assertion on your part it seems. So if I could show you some logical reasons that a Christian might support the TOE, would that falsify your assertion? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
YEC's can only attribute the deaths of humans to justice. The suffering and death of the many, many animals that were killed cannot be attributed to justice.c
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
My point is that upon learning that somebody accepts that the Theory of Evolution is useful explanatory framework for explaining why populations change (ie they accept the ToE), can you make the deduction that they do not believe in slavic house spirits? My point is that you have not shown how such a deduction is possible. Your logic does not follow. This is why I said 'non sequitur'. Does that clarify things for you? It doesn't really clarify things for me. I'm talking about logical necessities. It is logically necessary that if you accept TOE, you do not accept incorporeality as a possibility. People have many illogical beliefs.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Evolution tells us that human life came about accidentally. Therefore, our lives are ultimately meaningless.
You are presupposing that there is such a thing as ultimate meaning.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
So if I could show you some logical reasons that a Christian might support the TOE, would that falsify your assertion? Yes it would.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
You are presupposing that there is such a thing as ultimate meaning. If there were a God, there might be ultimate meaning. But assuming there is no God, all we have is meaninglessness.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
YEC's can only attribute the deaths of humans to justice. The suffering and death of the many, many animals that were killed cannot be attributed to justice That may be, but I'm not arguing the YEC position, so it doesn't matter if their view makes sense as far as my position is concerned.I was just telling you what I believe the YEC'S THINK. My position is nihilistic.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Do you agree that the evidence from fossils, geology, biology, the various different species found on the earth today, genetics and experimental science show that evolution happened?
This message has been edited by jar, 01-22-2006 09:05 AM Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
My view would be that Germ Theory logically excludes the supernatural, or at any rate it excludes the idea of God in the conventional sense I don't think that follows. The germ theory does not logically exclude "mind." It has nothing to do with the origins of human life or the purpose of life as does evolution.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
Do you agree that the evidence from fossils, geology, biology, the various different species found on the earth today, genetics and experimental science show that evolution happened? Yes, definitely.
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