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Asgara
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Message 241 of 300 (280769)
01-22-2006 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by jar
01-22-2006 4:09 PM


Realistic Goals?
I see no reason we couldn't break the top 500. Right now there are groups with less members and devices than us within the top 400. They have been on since startup in Nov 04.
Para had predicted we have a chance to be within range of the top 500 by the beginning of April.
With our member base, we have the ability to be a force within the grid. We currently have over 50 hardcore members that have made more than 1000 posts. We have over 100 members that have made more than 500 posts. If even a small fraction joined this project we could be a top team.
There are many teams within the top 200 that are averaging less time/results per day than we are.
Team EvC has been online since 11-24-05.
Right now we have 27 members running 43 devices.
We have four members running 4 devices each, one member running 3 devices, and four members running 2 devices each.
Each day we average 14:15:24:25 of run time (day:hour:min:sec).
Each day we return, on average, 37.27119 results.
Results are taking, on average, 9:25:42 to complete (hour:min:sec).

World Community Grid Global Statistics:

Totals:
Members 150,513
Teams 9,079 w/ 66,134 members in them
Devices 250,064
Run Time (y;d:h:m:s) 27,486:110:16:32:42
Points Generated 6,205,115,377
Results Returned 26,721,929
Averages:
Run Time Per Calendar Day (y;d:h:m:s) 56:034:11:47:20
Run Time Per Result (y;d:h:m:s) 0:000:09:00:38
Points Per Hour of Run Time 25.77089
Points Per Calendar Day 12,663,500.76939
Points Per Result 232.21061
Results Per Calendar Day 54,534.54898
WOW! The grid has donated over 27,486 YEARS of processor time to benefit humanity! All told over 26 MILLION results have been returned.

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tsig
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Message 242 of 300 (280770)
01-22-2006 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by IrishRockhound
01-17-2006 7:42 AM


way to go
Hey guys, I'm going to add my second computer to the grid - do I need to start a new profile or can I just add it to my current one?
Using a spare computer is the only way I would do this. If I was a hacker these systems would be my prime target.

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Asgara
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Message 243 of 300 (280772)
01-22-2006 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by tsig
01-22-2006 4:51 PM


Re: way to go
Quoting from a Grid Tech on their forums:
We take security very seriously on this project and I drive my management crazy making sure we take care of any and all potential security concerns. The last thing we would need in a philanthropic project like this is a black eye due to some security problem.
While I know, as a computer scientist, that it is almost impossible to guarantee 100% security, I must say that the agent software used for World Community Grid is probably the most secure piece of software you have on your PC (counting Windows, the standard applications, browser, device drivers, etc.). If I were a hacker, and knowing what I know, the World Community Grid agent would be my least promising avenue for attacking a machine.
The software we are currently using has been audited in various ways for vulnerabilities and we employ ethical hackers to see if there are any problems that we should address either with the agent or our servers. While on one hand I don't like the idea of publishing a lot of detailed security information which might make the novice users unjustifiably nervous, I am planning on writing a security overview to be placed somewhere on our web site, because the question does come up often in various meetings.
Here is the link to their Privacy and Security page.
Another quote from their forum admin:
We use an encrypted communication link between client and server. The communication link is established by the client, never by the server. The server is secured by IBM. No security is perfect, but in practice this means that spam or viruses have to come from somewhere else.
Major organization such as IBM seem to have no issues with the security of this project. Here is the link to their partners page, World Community Grid - About Us - Our Partners

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tsig
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Message 244 of 300 (280774)
01-22-2006 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by Asgara
01-22-2006 4:48 PM


Reercy?
Didn't see percy on the last list.

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Asgara
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Message 245 of 300 (280781)
01-22-2006 5:16 PM
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01-22-2006 5:04 PM


Re: percy?
Oddly enough, neither do I.
I don't see a lot of people I would have thought to see.

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tsig
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Message 246 of 300 (280788)
01-22-2006 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by Asgara
01-22-2006 5:16 PM


reasons
Oddly enough, neither do I.
I don't see a lot of people I would have thought to see.
Maybe there're like I am and a bit queasy about having their computer being on line when they cannot monitor it.
Programs never stay in the background.
Some of the problems are mentioned in this thread.

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Asgara
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Message 247 of 300 (280790)
01-22-2006 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by tsig
01-22-2006 5:45 PM


Re: reasons
The only problems I've seen mentioned in this thread have also been countered in this thread.
Security is about as good as you can get, you can set the time the program runs, you can set the cpu usage. It automatically runs at the lowest priority anyway.
But hey, whatever. If you don't want to run it you don't have to. You have questions, I believe they've been answered. If you still choose to stay off the grid, that is your decision.
I did my research before I joined and I assume that most others here did the same.

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tsig
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Message 248 of 300 (280794)
01-22-2006 6:18 PM
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01-22-2006 6:02 PM


you asked
I did my research before I joined and I assume that most others here did the same.
Not meaning to tread on anybodys toes, but you asked for reasons.

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tsig
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Message 249 of 300 (280798)
01-22-2006 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by Asgara
01-22-2006 6:02 PM


good luck
Security is about as good as you can get, you can set the time the program runs, you can set the cpu usage. It automatically runs at the lowest priority anyway.
Asgara, I hope noting but good comes from the program.
Just would rather my computer do what I tell it, don't always happen now.lol

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Ben!
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Posts: 1161
From: Hayward, CA
Joined: 10-14-2004


Message 250 of 300 (280816)
01-22-2006 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by RAZD
01-22-2006 8:03 AM


Re: Pegged Processors
If you look at the progress meter you will see that it is not starting over.
Actually, that's the whole reason I believe it's starting over. At points, I've gotten as high as 2.1% done. Only to see that I was at 0.9% another day. Which makes me think the global scheduler thought I wouldn't finish the result and reassigned it. And had me start a new one.
This is why my work computer is set to only run in screen saver mode, so it does't slow down work work.
I had that on for a while, but it just gave me the same fan problem. I'll check out bob_gray's liked thread and see if that helps.
Thanks RAZD.

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Ben!
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Message 251 of 300 (280817)
01-22-2006 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 237 by bob_gray
01-22-2006 3:27 PM


Re: Pegged Processors
There is a way to throttle down the CPU usage.
Thanks for the link. I was surprised they chose to use an environment variable to switch this on (rather than a registry entry), but...
I'll try this out and see if it helps me out. I wish I was more technically proficient with hardware & BIOS to look into the heat problem. I have checked the fan and some of the more common things, but haven't had any success.
Anyway, thanks again. I'll try to remember to post something up here to say how this trick works for me.

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RAZD
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Message 252 of 300 (280818)
01-22-2006 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 251 by Ben!
01-22-2006 8:05 PM


Re: Pegged Processors
I have one piece of software that I use at work that was "jerky" with this running in the background (the mouse pointer would stick for a second every ten seconds or so) so I usually had to disable this while using it. I have tested this now with the environment variable set at 90% and do not have the problem. I do notice that the CPU usage varies quite a bit around the 90% (and sometimes still pegs at 100%) so I expect this variation while set at 100 would explain the jerky behavior I was experiencing (probably from feedback delay from measuring usage to control the background usage).

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bob_gray
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Message 253 of 300 (280822)
01-22-2006 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 251 by Ben!
01-22-2006 8:05 PM


Re: Pegged Processors
You're welcome. I was glad to find that link myself. Hopefully you will be able to stay on the grid with the modified settings.
On a side note, if your fan is making too much noise you should check out SilenX, they make the quietest CPU fans. http://www.silenxusa.com/productcart/pc/mainindex.asp

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bob_gray
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Message 254 of 300 (280823)
01-22-2006 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by Asgara
01-22-2006 4:48 PM


Re: Realistic Goals?
The general stats I can see but where did you get the list of the top 500 teams? I was only able to find an alphabetical listing.

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jar
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Message 255 of 300 (280825)
01-22-2006 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by bob_gray
01-22-2006 8:37 PM


Re: Realistic Goals?
Look here.

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