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Author Topic:   Who represents Christians if Falwell, Dobson and Robertson don't?
nator
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Message 1 of 120 (277229)
01-08-2006 4:59 PM


I have been wondering about the complaints I have been hearing from Christians who say that Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and James Dobson do not speak for them even though they are the three most prominent Christian political and religious figures in America today.
Clearly, all three are radical right-wing Fundamentalists and only represent a small but vocal minority of Christians in the US. However, they are the only prominent political Christian voices I ever hear, and this tends to color my view of American Protestant Christians overall.
Why is there no organized, vocal mainstream Christian opposition to these men, and if they do not represent "the rest of the Christians", who does?
Admin, please put this wherever you think best, thanks.

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nator
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Message 22 of 120 (277329)
01-08-2006 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Faith
01-08-2006 8:11 PM


Re: Anti-family values
How exactly is gay-marriage being "pushed" by the media? It seems to be a grassroots effort that is getting little if any help from the media. Other than a low-budget documentary I came across at midnight on a PBS station, once (you know, the kind of documentary where the director/camera operator/caterer are all the same person, that the sound person has the same last name!).

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nator
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Message 60 of 120 (280434)
01-20-2006 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by clpMINI
01-18-2006 4:34 PM


Re: Purpose Driven Life
quote:
I, as a liberal kinda guy, do not for a moment think that Streisand speaks for me, and I am just as certain that conservative folks probably feel the same way about Falwell and company.
Falwell is interviewed on CNN frequently about political issues, and Streisand and Penn are not. Falwell has many thousands, perhaps millions, or faithful supporters who send him lots of money. Babs and Penn do not.
Falwell claims he speaks for all Christian conservatives.
On national television. Quite frequently.
If he doesn't, then who does?

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nator
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Message 61 of 120 (280436)
01-20-2006 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by randman
01-18-2006 4:41 PM


Re: How about Jesse Jackson?
Jimmy Carter is a good choice, but he doesn't really comment upon religious issues because he considers it pretty private, I believe.
quote:
One thing to keep in mind is that being a public figure because you have a media ministry or job that is public due to political or social activity does not mean you are considered the most esteemed spiritual leader, and esteemed spiritual leaders often do not have TV and radio ministries of the type to put them in the eye of the secular media.
All I am saying is that if the vast majority of mainstream, "normal" Christians don't want Falwell and Robertson and Hinn and Dobson and all the rest of the crazies to represent them, then why aren't they getting together to support and promote a spokesperson that would combat these radical wackos?

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nator
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Message 92 of 120 (281062)
01-23-2006 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Silent H
01-23-2006 4:19 PM


Re: People that are irrelevant in this topic
Dobson has a conference call with the White House almost weekly. More during an election year.

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nator
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Message 99 of 120 (282061)
01-27-2006 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by riVeRraT
01-27-2006 8:28 PM


Re: Duh
Jesus is dead, so he can't represent anybody.

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nator
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Message 104 of 120 (282238)
01-28-2006 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by randman
01-28-2006 2:19 AM


Re: Duh
If Jesus were here, on this board right now, would he back up his claims with evidence, randman?
Would he follow rule #4 of the forum rules?
Or, would He demand that everybody else do His research for Him?

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nator
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Message 107 of 120 (282293)
01-29-2006 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by riVeRraT
01-29-2006 7:18 AM


Re: Duh
Great, I'd like to start a Great Debate with him.
Somehow, I think he will bugger off.

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nator
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Message 117 of 120 (288404)
02-19-2006 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by randman
01-29-2006 6:32 PM


Re: Duh
quote:
Ben, I think the representatives of Christianity to non-Christians are the Christians that people know personally.
Ouch.

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