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Author Topic:   Who represents Christians if Falwell, Dobson and Robertson don't?
randman 
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Message 93 of 120 (281202)
01-24-2006 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by nator
01-23-2006 8:33 PM


Re: People that are irrelevant in this topic
Yea, I would expect Dobson to have more contact than Falwell or Robertson, although I'd like to see verification of the weekly conference call, which I seriously doubt the president is on.
But I like Dobson OK. I think he has sound judgement and is probably a good person for the WH to consult with.
What do you not like about Dobson?

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Message 95 of 120 (281257)
01-24-2006 1:46 PM


explain how Dobson is radical?
all three are radical right-wing Fundamentalists
How is Dobson radical?

  
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Message 100 of 120 (282093)
01-28-2006 2:19 AM
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01-27-2006 9:35 PM


Re: Duh
Actually, Jesus is not dead, and He more than represents Christianity, He is the whole of it.

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Message 110 of 120 (282365)
01-29-2006 6:32 PM
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01-28-2006 8:48 AM


Re: Duh
Ben, I think the representatives of Christianity to non-Christians are the Christians that people know personally. I also think there is a wide range within Christians.
I also think that people need to judge accurately. They say, hey, this Christian preacher or leader is doing wrong, and you know, I agree, but it comes back to them as well. What are they doing as people? What do the leaders and people representing their ideas do?
Unfortunately, the American public as a whole has lost it's way in terms of morals, imo, both Christian and non-Christian.

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Message 113 of 120 (282373)
01-29-2006 7:10 PM
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01-29-2006 6:56 PM


meaningful....morals
It's not the media. It's experience that tells me have weakened morally. First though, let me say that there are some improvements. I think we have improved morally when it comes to race relations and some other smaller-scale issues, such as whether we allow date-rape, bullying in schools, open tolerance and celebration of drunkenness, and some other issues.
In terms though of basic morality, I think we have slipped. I think we are far more likely to use the law to attack and sue one another, and do so in a dishonest manner, lying in deposition, etc,...if that advances our cause. I think, in general, we lie a lot more as a soceity. I think sexual abuse and abduction of children, substance abuse, probably infedility, and other things probably as well have increased.
In general, I think we are much more amoral, especially the GenX generation and younger Baby Boomers, and that a sense and perhaps even ability to assess basic moral fairness has at times been corrupted. I think a lack of moral fiber and toughness, and an increase in selfishness probably lies at the root of the high divorce rate.
The values of America are probably best expressed as personal comfort and self-fulfillment.
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