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Message 7 of 108 (282185)
01-28-2006 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
01-28-2006 1:11 PM


i'm not normally one to post bare links, but this has been covered and hased out repeatedly, and anything i could say has already been said here: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

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Message 10 of 108 (282377)
01-29-2006 7:36 PM
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01-29-2006 1:26 PM


metatarsi
However, there are not problems there. The 'paulxy river' footprints are not human footprints at all. they are mostly a different kind of dinosaur
mostly the same kind of dinosaur, actually. bipedal dinosaurs in this area seemed to have walked flat-footed across soft terrain. we humans are one of the few animals that walk on our feet. most walk on their toes, and heel looks like an extra joint in the leg.
quote:
Figure 1. Variations of Bipedal Dinosaur Tracks
A. Bipedal dinosaur in digitigrade stance
B. Typical bipedal dinosaur track
C. Bipedal dinosaur track with partial metatarsal impression
D. Bipedal dinosaur in plantigrade stance
E. Elongated dinosaur track with full metatarsal impression
F. Elongated dinosaur track with digit marks obscurred by mud back-flow
G. Elongated dinosaur track with indistinct digits. May be the result of a firm substrate, erosion, secondary infilling, or a combination of factors. Note resemblance to a human footprint.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/tsfig1.html


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Message 14 of 108 (282443)
01-29-2006 11:18 PM
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01-29-2006 9:17 PM


coincidence
Thats funny because the guy on the Christian channel said that a woman took off her shoes and placed her foot in it, and it fit better than her shoes.
most of the prints they talk about are 11.5 inches.
just to be clear about this, i'm a 6'3 male, and my feet are just under 11 inches.
most of the tracks they show look like this (borrowed wholesale from the site listed in big letters on the graphics):
you can also see at pages like this one and this one and this one and this one that the "human" footprint is not just inside the dinosaur track, but actually part of it. it's curious the number of dino tracks they've found that have a human footprint in exactly this formation, with the human part direct at the rear of the standard dino print. it looks a lot like a metatarsel imprint.
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Message 18 of 108 (282454)
01-30-2006 12:41 AM
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01-30-2006 12:20 AM


Re: anybody got a link besides TalkOrigins
the ones i addressed on the previous page were just slightly larger than my own foot prints. (and what's wrong with t.o? the articles there are by the paleontologists who first found and charted and documented the paluxy tracks)


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Message 27 of 108 (282643)
01-30-2006 3:32 PM
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01-30-2006 2:51 PM


Re: anybody got a link besides TalkOrigins
Fakes made for the tourist trade don't really count for evidence , does it?
of course they do! haven't you heard of the ica stones?


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Message 32 of 108 (285953)
02-12-2006 10:10 AM
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02-11-2006 4:31 PM


All you'd have to do is cut a cross-sectional view of the 'footprints' and see if the sediment is depressed beneath it. But I'm sure we wouldn't want to destroy such important evidence of creation.
the folks over at bible.ca sectioned this laughable print to demonstrate the depressed sediment algae. talkorigins disagrees.


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Message 40 of 108 (294716)
03-12-2006 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by LudoRephaim
03-12-2006 6:38 PM


feel free to post anything you've got in the appropriate thread (this one may or may not be appropriate, but you should probably bump one of the old ones).
i think that my reading is farily accurate, but i'm open to new information.


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Message 42 of 108 (294735)
03-12-2006 10:33 PM
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03-12-2006 10:15 PM


modern, but it's suprisingly insightful, even with what little i've learned. for instance, knowing a bit of grammar tends to completely destroy a lot of "i found a copy of strong's concordance" type arguments.


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Message 79 of 108 (298467)
03-26-2006 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Coragyps
03-26-2006 10:13 PM


Re: on the creation side... nothing.
That would be a wonderful topic! Dig that book out, KNO3!
randman had a thread like that, i think. it turned into another "OMG HAECKEL LIED!!!!~~~ONE" thread.


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Message 101 of 108 (310420)
05-08-2006 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by CK
05-08-2006 7:20 PM


Re: Bear permian track ahhhhh
I'm surprised that site has never popped up here before
it hasn't?
i've seen it before. it's one of the "big three" in the "nutters" department. (drdino.com and bible.ca being the other two.)


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