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Asgara Member (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
I know these are bare links, but all you asked for were other sites about the paluxy river tracks.
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4926 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Well actually, the links in the OP apparently deal with finds besides the Paluxy river tracks, or on skimming it, I notice they first feature tracks of normal size footprints, not the oversize ones you guys seem familiar with.
But thanks for the links. I'll check them out.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1371 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
the ones i addressed on the previous page were just slightly larger than my own foot prints. (and what's wrong with t.o? the articles there are by the paleontologists who first found and charted and documented the paluxy tracks)
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
My experience has been TalkOrigins is less than credible. Well, they cite their articles with accessable, peer-reviewed literature. I've never seen AIG cite anything except their own "journal."
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ramoss Member (Idle past 639 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Why do you find Talk origins 'less than credible'. They document their sources very well, including links to peer reviewed scientific journals.
Could it be that you don't want to accept their viewpoint? Since you claim they are 'less than credible', perhaps you can point out a specific incident, and we can analyse if they are 'less than credible' or not?
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4926 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
It would be another thread and too much time to get into now, but there is often a level of illogic and distortion in the articles I have read that basically places it, imo, in the arena of propaganda.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
oh clearly that's enough for anyone. what was i thinking?
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
It is certainly not a topic for here but should be discussed in another thread, Brenna.
I suggest that someone open two threads:1) Criticisms of TalkOrigins and 2) Criticisms of AIG and/or ICR I'm sure that anyone making an assertion of flaws in any of these sites would enjoy laying out the details and evidence for this. It would be interesting for the EvC community to take turns going from one of these threads to the other and see how the results compare.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
well yes, but instead of opening that topic, rand is just dodging the issue.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Rand dodge an issue?
LOL This message has been edited by NosyNed, 01-30-2006 02:21 PM This message has been edited by NosyNed, 01-30-2006 02:22 PM
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ramoss Member (Idle past 639 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
If you saw the one link, they have found that a number of the tracks were made by man, carving them. These tracks were sold for souvineers in the 20's and 30's.
Fakes made for the tourist trade don't really count for evidence , does it?
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1371 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Fakes made for the tourist trade don't really count for evidence , does it? of course they do! haven't you heard of the ica stones?
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Gary Inactive Member |
I looked at the first link, and I have to say that the footprint depicted in the photos there looks very, very fake. It is perfectly understandable that creationists might confuse it for a real footprint, because they obviously have never looked at their own feet before.
Here is the picture in question:
The most striking feature of the footprint, to me, is its incredible flatness. The heel and part by the toes should be pressed down more, because that is how weight is distributed when we walk. The part in the middle shouldn't be pressed down very much at all. The website says that these areas are pressed down as they should be, but if they are the picture sure doesn't show it. To illustrate, I found this photo on Google Image Search of a fresher footprint.
You could do some handwaving and say that these problems are caused by erosion. If that is the case, however, the toes shouldn't be so clearly defined. In the above photo of the new footprint, you can see that the smaller toes are hard to make out, if you can even differentiate one from another at all. The "fossil" footprint, however, looks more like a sock with toes sewed on. The toes are all equally perfectly preserved. These problems make me come to the conclusion that this particular footprint was carved by someone who wanted to make a footprint in a piece of rock, but didn't know much about feet. I don't know how old the rock is, but the footprint is new. Its shape reminds me of fake footprints of Bigfoot, where someone simply cut out a piece of plywood in the shape of a big foot and stamped it into the mud. Even creationists should be able to see through this.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 639 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Supposedly, a number of 'fake' footprints were made for the tourist trade in the 1920's and 1930's. You will notice that is it not part of the original bed of rock, but removed from the original scene. That is so they could sell them in souvenier shops.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1016 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
All you'd have to do is cut a cross-sectional view of the 'footprints' and see if the sediment is depressed beneath it. But I'm sure we wouldn't want to destroy such important evidence of creation.
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