What we must accept if we accept evolution Part 2

Here's another version:

Death and suffering are intrinsic to life in the twenty-first century.

Death and suffering are alien to a good God, the God the Bible describes.

To accept life in the twenty-first century we must accept either atheism or an evil or incompetent God.

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So if you want to avoid having to choose either atheism or an evil or incompetent God, you must deny the reality of life in the twenty-first century. Either that, or you could try to convince me that death and suffering are not intrinsic to life in the twenty-first century.

You know Faith, I have a problem with that, a problem of simple arithmetic.Let's suppose that you are right in saying that God didn't originally include death in his creation. That means that it was his intention that no one would die. Let's further make some assumptions about the rate of human reproduction. Let's, for argument's sake, assume - conservatively - that each human produces two children, and - also conservatively - that humans reproduce at age thirty. Let's also assume that the first humans started reproducing six thousand years ago.If we assume all that, then we can calculate that, if no one ever dies, the current human population would consist of 2^(6000/30) people, which comes down to roughly 1.6 x 10⁶⁰ souls, or about 2.7 x 10⁵⁰ times the current world population. Oh, to hell with short notation! That's 270.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 times six billion people. If you pack them tightly, the sphere you need to put them in would be larger than the solar system. And not just a bit larger, but a hell of a lot larger. And please remember that the initial assumptions were conservative.I ask you, did God have a plan where to put all those people? Let alone all the animals that were born and never died in the past six thousand years? Not to mention the plants needed to sustain all of them?This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 01-Feb-2006 08:21 AM

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Well, it wasn't really hard for me to reconstruct the consequences of God's original plan. And it turned out that the earth was going to be ludicrously inadequate. I think that's a bit too easy, Faith. That's a cop-out and you know it. I had expected something better from you.

Why? He can be in the driver's seat, as far as I'm concerned.

I must warn you that some people's toes are so long that there's no avoiding stepping on them once in a while. (Faith, I'm not talking about you. I'm one of your groupies.)Welcome to this strange club of minds.

You're drunk.