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Topic: James Dobson
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nator
Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 1 of 9 (281265)
01-24-2006 2:06 PM
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In another thread, I characterized James Dobson as a "radical right-wing Christian fundamentalist" or similar. Randman wanted to know why I consider Dobson a member of this group. The reasons are many, but the People For The American Way's brief description of Dobson and the goals of his organization, Focus on the Family, are a good start. Here is a little bit:
link FOF is anti-choice, anti-gay, and against sex education curricula that are not strictly abstinence-only. Local schoolbook censors frequently use Focus on the Family's material when challenging a book or curriculum in the public schools. FOF also focuses on religion in public schools, encouraging Christian teachers to establish prayer groups in schools. FOF supports student-led prayer in public schools, although it points out that it doesn’t support teacher-led prayer for fear that a teacher would encourage Christian students “to pray to Allah, Buddha or the goddess Sophia against the wishes of the parents and/or students.” (“Religion in Public Schools,” February 1998.) FOF also supports private school vouchers, tax credits for religious schools, rejects education efforts that address multiculturalism or homosexuality, and recommends that Christian parents to withdraw from the Parents and Teachers Association (PTA) on the grounds that it has a liberal social agenda. FOF supports faith-based social services and “charitable choice.” FOF works against “special rights” for homosexuals, works against hate crime legislation, and supports “reparative therapy” for homosexuality, which has been widely discredited and rejected by the vast majority of doctors and physicians. FOF sponsors “Love Won Out,” monthly conferences held around the U.S. that claim to prove that “homosexuality is preventable and treatable,” where many of the speakers are “ex-gays.” “Love Won Out” is from the title of a book by John Paulk, an “ex-gay” who is the host of the conferences and is an employee of Focus on the Family. For those ex-gays who cannot change, FOF considers sexual celibacy another option. FOF regularly asserts the idea that there is a “homosexual agenda” and associates homosexuals with pedophilia and recruitment of children as sex partners.
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AdminNWR
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Message 2 of 9 (281313)
01-24-2006 5:05 PM
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Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 3 of 9 (281318)
01-24-2006 5:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by nator 01-24-2006 2:06 PM
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Lest we forget
nevermind This message has been edited by 1.61803, 01-24-2006 05:25 PM
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Phat
Member Posts: 18345 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 4 of 9 (281322)
01-24-2006 5:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by nator 01-24-2006 2:06 PM
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Dobsons Robots
The folk who Dobson reaches are at fault for being unthinking robots who call their congressman when told and who never question the idea of legislating morality as Biblical... (it is not.)
NIV writes: Luke 20:23-25-- He saw through their duplicity and said to them, "Show me a denarius. Whose portrait and inscription are on it?" "Caesar's," they replied. He said to them, "Then give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." We all know that establishing a theocratic kingdom on earth is very Jewish yet NOT very Christian. Dobson is, IMHO, not so much a con or an evil man, however. He is just another Right Wing autocrat imagining that he is doing Gods work...(for profit, BTW) This message has been edited by Phat, 01-24-2006 03:33 PM Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart, and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. Even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained; and even in the best of all hearts, there remains a small corner of evil. --Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
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macaroniandcheese 
Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: 05-24-2004
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Message 5 of 9 (281384)
01-24-2006 11:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 4 by Phat 01-24-2006 5:32 PM
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Re: Dobsons Robots
i find it very amusing that all these people who say they love jesus spend so much time putting money changing tables into his houses.
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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: 05-09-2004
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Message 6 of 9 (282053)
01-27-2006 8:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by nator 01-24-2006 2:06 PM
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Oh yea, and did I mention that my 80% rule means Christians as well?
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Hal Jordan
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Message 7 of 9 (283066)
02-01-2006 7:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by nator 01-24-2006 2:06 PM
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The Dark Ages????
Based on just the pasted test, I'd say you were dead on when you called James D a radical right-wing Christian fundamentalist. In my opinion, you were being polite. I have read other links that state Dobson's position, and it just seems that he is yet another unfortunate example of a religious leader (with no formal training) using fear to entice his followers to make HIS political decisions, although he claims his positions are God's.
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Minnemooseus
Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: 11-11-2001 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 8 of 9 (508604)
05-15-2009 1:12 AM
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James Dobson's Political Surrender
Found via PZ Myers' Pharyngula http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/... The concluding paragraph of the above site:
quote: What's remarkable about today's broadcast is that Dobson plainly states that the only way for Christians to start winning again politically is for the GOP to regain power. He makes no effort to avoid coming across as a Republican activist. For a long time, Dobson went out of his way to keep up the appearance of being above partisan politics. As he enters what may be the twilight of his broadcasting career, he appears to care less and less about maintaining that image.
Moose
Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) "Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Re: James Dobson's Political Surrender
Dobson actually said:
I've been on the air for 32 years and I've never seen a time quite like this. It just illustrates what happens when we don't have what the Founding Fathers referred to as checks and balances, where the excesses of one party or one branch of government limit the reach of power hungry and self-serving people and keeps them form doing things that are harmful to the country. He had his eyes closed for six solid years? 2001 to 2007? What a tool. Edited by Coragyps, : fix tag
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