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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1371 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
I have understanding - not from humans - from the Elohim. Woh, the amount of times I wish I didn't know what I know. It is not easy to know, it seems much easier not knowing. are you claiming to be navi?
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Menachem Inactive Member |
are you claiming to be navi? No. I am not a prophet.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1371 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
No. I am not a prophet. then how has god imparted a special understanding to you?
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
With such understanding you should be a valuable resource here.
However, we should also note that the idea that something not there is speaking to one is a sign of very serious mental illness too. Since there are hints (but only hints so far) that your understanding of the real world is faulty I'm going to provisionally go with the later idea.
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Menachem Inactive Member |
something not there is speaking to one is a sign of very serious mental illness too. I don't blame you for thinking it is mental illness.
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Menachem Inactive Member |
I am no better than any other person - no more important. I am just on the opposite side of the table for now.
Yirat Hashem - Love - Understanding - Forgiveness These are the things the Elohim told me about (while I was awake and scared like you wouldn't believe).
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1371 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
perhaps you could describe in greater detail? start a thread about it, maybe.
This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 02-02-2006 07:27 PM
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pianoprincess* Inactive Member |
There is no conflict between the TOE and Christianity, however if ID were proven it would then mean that there is no GOD There are massive contradictions. =)and I don't get the second half....????
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AdminNWR Inactive Member |
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Did you go to the link I provided in that message and read what was presented?
I provided you a link to an open letter signed by more than 10,000 US Christian Clergy that accept the TOE as the best possible explanation of how life evolved. In the letter they say...
We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. Let me repeat. "To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.' If someoine is trying to get you to reject the TOE, they are trying to keep you in ignorance. I'll try again to explain the second part.
jar writes: ...however if ID were proven it would then mean that there is no GOD For ID is ever proven it will bring the designer into the world of natural beings. The designer will no longer be a GOD, but rather just another of the natural forces. It will also mean an end to science and creativity. If at anytime, some super designer can step in and change the rules, we can no longer rely on any outcome. The world becomes one of chaos and chance, will ID let this happen or will she step in this time and change the outcome? No, there are several things we can know for sure. Young Earth Creationism is simply wrong. It has been falsified. Anyone that still believes in YEC does so through willfull ignorance. If ID is true beyond the very simplest point (the initial creation of the rules for example) then it must stand for Inept Design. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6109 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
I am willing to answer your questions outside Bible or God. My answers will be based only on Science.When I discuss ID, I discuss only Science without God or Bible. What is your question please?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
For starters, what is the scientific basis for ID?
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6109 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
Intelligent Design. If you can understand intelligence and Design, then you have the answer. IN simple words, whatever cannot self assemble or self synthesize is the work of an intelligent designer.I know very little about computers, but I use them a lot. But, Steve Jobs is lot more intelligent than me. Because, he DESIGNED the first apple computer.
This message has been edited by inkorrekt, 02-06-2006 12:05 PM
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
you never used the early Apple Computers.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: Can this be demonstrated? "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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