Declaration of Arbroath

Scottish Declaration of Independance.http://www.constitution.org/scot/arbroath.htm "Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today."All of the Scottish lords who signed the text did so by attaching their seals:http://www.abcog.org/gifs/arbroath.jpgThe Scots are claiming to be ancestors of scattered 10 tribe Israel.Ray promoted reluctantly by AdminJar

It doesn't seem to say it...it does say it.Scythians: "booth dwellers". The practice of building a booth to dwell in is Hebrew. During the feast of the Tabernacles Israelites built temporary structures outside their homes to dwell in to remind themselves that they were delivered from Egypt.Scythians means sons of Isaac.Ray

These Scottish nobles are claiming what the text SAYS.Their ORIGIN: Hebrews who crossed the Red Sea. Thats why the text mentions this event. I am saying the Scots are saying....yes Trixie.They know where they descended from. The text tells us where THEY SAY. Your belief about the fact is false.The Exodus is mentioned because they are claiming to be descendants. [source: Dr. E. Raymond Capt]Of course 1320 predates British Israelism cult. Sycthians = sons of Isaac.You seem to be asserting the text does not mean what it says. This is a modern Darwinian need as is seen in their handling of the Bible.The text/evidence claims ancestry from Hebrews.Ray

....and explain why all these Scottish lords attempted to deceive. Denial of Hebrew origin of the Isles is a modern invent/need by secular scholars. Only if you ignore what it says. Scythians are sons of Isaac. They were Celts and semetic/Shemitic = "light skinned peoples" (Dr. Scott). Their origin is north of the Caucasus Mountains, hence "caucasian"/light skinned peoples.Very popular Nordic surname: Isaacson = sons of Isaac. The links only purpose was to have a source for the text itself. Calling the text fiction is asserting the evidence is not genuine. What evidence do you have that all these Scottish nobles are wrong ?RayThis message has been edited by Herepton, 02-07-2006 05:52 PM

That debate showed how ignorant you were of basic geometry since the height was proven via 3 separate scholars. I can prove the height with atheist scholars alone (5449 polar diameter inches), but we know from the very recent past EvC will not let itself get humliated as is seen in refusing to debate my last PNT.Ray

Ad hom rant against a scholar caused by the inability to refute. You are completely ignorant and expect everyone to hold your unsupported assertions as fact.The text says what it means and proves any evidence proving the Bible is ignored/suppressed just like the Bible claims. ungodly means against recognizing God.unrighteous, in context, means against faith.Who in our society is guilty of the above ?Atheists and Darwinists.What do these persons do ?Verse 18: "....who suppress the truth in unrighteousness"They suppress the truth while hostile to the way of faith = secular society best represented by Jar.Your "argument"/denial proves this verse represents reality = claim of the Bible.Ray

The Scottish lords are attempting to secure Papal support. The "renown" history is now going to be outlined: Read the text.Okay.Descent is outlined, from nearest working backwards "Thence they came....after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea" The "they" are then connected to Israel.By including this information the Scots are claiming Hebrew ancestry. Human evolution proceeds with obscure fossil scraps found with no birth certificates/text attached.The information at issue is included in the text because the Scots are claiming their ancient forefathers proceeded:"They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes"The above is then linked with Israel.The only reason it says all of this is because they are claiming ancestry. To assert otherwise is to ignore prima facie evidence.The CLAIM is supported by a universe of other evidence, some of it mentioned briefly and even more quickly ignored.Why was all this information placed in the text unless the Scots were not saying their ancient brothers were Hebrew ?Your reply here has been ad hoc with all due respect.RayThis message has been edited by Herepton, 02-07-2006 07:27 PM

Do you think God actually meant He created by ape evolution even though the text says no such thing ?Ray

The above verse is a dying Jacob's last words about Dan. Dr. Scott says it is a prophecy, predicting wherever the descendants of Dan travel to - they will leave a "serpents trail", that is they will leave their MARK.Original Hebrew contained no vowels. DAN is DN and could easily be DIN/DEN/DON/DUN.Evidence of the prophecy/Dan's mark:Denmark/Danmark = DAN'S MARK, DANes, DANish.DANube, DANaster, and DANaper rivers.Tuatha de Danaan = tribe of Danfounder of Greek civilization: DANaus“Danaus, the father of fifty daughters on coming to Argos took up his abode in the city of Inarchos and throughout Hellas (i.e., Greece). He laid down the law that all people hitherto named Pelasgians were to be named Danaans” - (Strabo 5.2.40 quoting Euripides).ScanDANavia.Of course Dan was a son of Jacob, son of Isaac = Nordic surname "Isaacson" = sons of Isaac.Remember Dan is also Dun.How many DUN's are their in Britain alone ? Hundreds.Ray

Imagine that...a person with the ability to deduce obscure fossil scraps to be as his worldview needs them to be...turning a blind eye to prima facie evidence ?Now we know why Darwinists must rely on physical evidence: it can be manipulated according to their needs, unlike linguistic evidence, which they must simply ignore for obvious reasons.Ray

Because Jar must insist his assertions are evidence. He has, like you have pointed out, made senseless assertion after senseless assertion.All my evidence is face value proof: no special pleading required.Sycthians means sons of Isaac (Dr. Scott). All opposition in this thread simply asserts contrary to what the evidence plainly dictates. Here we have Darwinists, persons claiming to be loyal to evidence, asserting contrary to Dan's mark across Eurasia.Arbroath plainly recounts the "renown" history of the Scots ending with their ancient brethern at the Red Sea.The point is the Scots are CLAIMING ancestry from Israel, but then again all opposition here is basically consistent in the fact that they believe human evolution which has not one prima facie fact in support.Ray

Major error.You are wrongly assuming all Hebrews are Jews and that all Israelites are Jews.All Jews are Hebrews but not all Hebrews are Jews."Jews" only appears in Scripture AFTER the spilt of the United Monarchy. Two kingdoms emerged: Northern Kingdom of Israel, capitol of Samaria; Southern Kingdom of Judah, capitol of Jerusalem. ONLY persons from the Southern Kingdom became known as "Jews"/Jewdah/Judah.The Hebrews of the North - 10 tribe Israel are NOT Jews. They are Hebrews. All Jews are Hebrews but not all Hebrews are Jews.When Assyria carried the North away into bondage in 721/2 BC, according to Hosea, God divorced Israel/Nothern Kingdom. These Hebrews NEVER returned to Palestine, but after breaking free of Assyria scattered across Eurasia. THESE "Lost Tribes" is whom Jesus told the disciples to take the gospel first: Ephesians, Galatians, Colossians, etc. etc. They are Celts dwelling in Asia minor and beyond. They will not look like Jews because they are NOT Jews. House of Israel = Nothern Kingdom.Jesus was the Law Incarnate, God killed Him. Now God can re-marry divorced Israel since the old bag (Mosaic Law) is dead. In fact the law said a woman/(Israel) cannot re-marry until her husband died/(Christ). When Christ rose from the dead: the Celts/Lost Tribes were the first ones to receive the gospel and their descendants (USA/Britain) have carried out the Great Commission to take the same gospel to the world.Ray

Yes it is.Assyria carried them away in 722 BC.Ray

London = LonDAN Brutus/British = son of Darda/DARDANUS, son of Judah, founded Troy.Brutus made his way to the Isles via ships controlled by DANites. This is why many rivers and port locales have the name "DAN" in them.RayThis message has been edited by Herepton, 02-10-2006 02:18 PM

In Genesis 38, Zarah, a birthright twin, was born.His descendants made their way to Spain after being ejected from the Delta by a "Pharoah who knew not Joseph."http://www.red2000.com/spain/zaragoza/ZARAgoza, Spain"Old Iberians" = Iberia/Ibrew/Hebrew.Hebrew means "wanderer" as they wandered all over Eurasia and founded Western culture. Didn't know any of this ? = power of Satan as seen in his ability to control secular historians from reporting these facts. Either way the Bible is proven true: Satan or Hebrews in Europe.RayThis message has been edited by Herepton, 02-10-2006 02:36 PM