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gene90 Member (Idle past 3845 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
Don't get your hopes up. The fact is that quite a few of my fellow evolutionists have an axe to grind with Christianity. We Christians are "evil", "stupid", and "dishonest". And we were recently (on this board) compared to the KKK.
Then there is resistance to the obvious. Time and again in this very thread I have pointed out that Africa's problem with AIDS is behavioral. If there were a behavioral change AIDS would not be infecting >20% of the population in some areas. When I do post common sense I get replies like this:
quote: Life's complicated isn't it? I guess maybe I shouldn't point out to somebody that if they don't want lung cancer they shouldn't smoke twelve packs a day and that if they don't want to get hit by a speeding vehicle they shouldn't wander out into busy highways. Could it be that I'm turning uncaring and arrogant? Maybe. I guess I could be caring and give kids reflective stickers so that when they play in the street at night cars will see them and maybe slam on the brakes. Or maybe I could just teach them not to play in the road...oh wait that's the "uncaring" and "heartless" and "puritanical" thing to do...after all isn't it their right to play in a busy highway? And incidentally, this board, in many threads, is not "Creationism vs Evolution" it is "Atheism vs Christianity". As an old-timer I have had the poor fortune of watching this site degenerate into what it is. Note the reference in the first message of this thread to "bead jinglers". Sounds a little like a racial slur doesn't it? [This message has been edited by gene90, 01-02-2003]
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3845 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
quote: This isn't about civility this about the law forcing me to pay for somebody elses' abortion in some Pacific Rim country. Now why should I have to pay for it when I don't even believe abortion is necessarily morally acceptable? I don't see anything "civilized" about the boot of government carrying out a travesty with my tax dollars and I'm glad to see the current administration is doing something about it.
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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6034 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
quote: You know, you might want to not partake of the 'free for all' forum if you're worried about good behavior. Just a thought.
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3845 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
I'm not talking about just this thread, Zhimbo. I believe my references to "this board" made that obvious.
[This message has been edited by gene90, 01-02-2003]
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metatron Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gene90:
[B] quote: This isn't about civility this about the law forcing me to pay for somebody elses' abortion in some Pacific Rim country. Now why should I have to pay for it when I don't even believe abortion is necessarily morally acceptable? Nobodies asking america to pay out gene we are asking america not to use economic and political pressure to inflict their backward religious preconceptions on the world.
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funkmasterfreaky Inactive Member |
I didn't think the U.S was a religious nation. I thought it was just a bomb factory, who's whole economy runs on war.
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Actually, US politics runs on religion. That is, politicians base campaigns on what are fundamentally religious issues and/or disguise the real issues as religious issues in order to milk the church-goers. The whole system is a really big mess, so we make a lot of bombs. ------------------
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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I thought you liked guns, Funky?
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Mespo Member (Idle past 2907 days) Posts: 158 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio, USA Joined: |
How incredibly short-sited are the bishops' pontifications about the use of condoms. Within one more generation, they will have no parishoners left alive to pontificate to.
(:raig
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metatron Inactive Member |
Maybe we could educate bishops of the dangers of aids by planting a few prepubescent aids infected altar boys in churches.
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3845 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
Hey Metatron,
Speaking of babies, it was reported yesterday on American cable news that UK Channel 4 is going to broadcast stills of a Chinese "performance artist" eating the flesh of a stillborn child. I'm astounded. Culture? Civility?
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metatron Inactive Member |
It could be worse gene we could execute 16 year old mentally disabled children. Do you object to CNN showing (oil)war footage?. Do you object to violence in cinema?.
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metatron Inactive Member |
Wow they really are civilized in Texas
Year 2002 death sentence data for the U.S. No wonder George Bush Jnr grew up to be such a twisted physchotic. [This message has been edited by Metatron, 01-12-2003]
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3845 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
No I don't necessarily object to violence on television, especially on the news. But I think it is a sign of a degenerate society to eat baby flesh on television to boost ratings.
By the way, weren't you going to explain how killing unborn babies makes a society "civilized"? Do people in your "civilized society" eat your babies with tea? And as for Texas, if a court has the authority to lock somebody in prison for the rest of their life, the same court has the authority to take away that life. If you believe courts do not have the authority to deprive a convicted murderer of his life, then by what right does the court lock them up for 75 years? For 20 years? Overnight? What about speeding tickets? Either the court has authority or it does not. Apparently you think it does not. Please. So let's review. If somebody kills a few little girls, and through due process of law is convicted by a jury of his peers, you think that person should not be executed. But, if we choose not to pay to have other people's unborn children killed, we are "uncivilized"?
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3845 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
quote: Ah. So if one of those Pacific Rim countries decided to, oh I don't know, gas half of their population, we shouldn't apply any "economic pressure" because it would "inflict" our "backward religious preconceptions" upon them. And by the way, you might want to check your sources. Or at least read them. This is the link you left: Attention Required! | Cloudflare This is a quote from that site explaining the political background, emphasis mine:
quote: IE, the United States Government (using my tax dollars) pays for murder of the unborn. If I don't believe in abortion, why should I help fund it? And I am funding it, not only in the US but in those Pacific Rim countries. In 2002 US$34 MILLION of America's taxdollars was to be spent on infanticide in foreign nations. Instead, thanks to the Bush Administration, it is going to USAID. My hat is off to them. And you might consider that it is our money to spend as we please. By the way, here's a liberal whining about it:Page Not Found And it goes deeper. It turns out that those $34 million were to be used partly by China in FORCED STERILIZATIONS and FORCED ABORTIONS. The President does not want to pay for that. Unfortunately the other countries, including the UK, seem to be just fine with it. Here's the letter:Page Not Found [This message has been edited by gene90, 01-12-2003]
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