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Author Topic:   Setting the record straight on hunting accidents
Murphy
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Message 61 of 71 (288626)
02-20-2006 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
02-19-2006 11:44 PM


Re: You're right.
What would you consider someone saying that Cheney swung his shotgun across everyone in the party and so broke his hunting 'rule'. There is no evidence that such a thing happened yet jar kept accusing Cheney of it and attacking him for doing such.
Attacking people on manufactured evidence certainly is no way to 'debate'.

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 62 of 71 (288645)
02-20-2006 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Murphy
02-20-2006 11:02 AM


Re: You're right.
Murphy, I don't know where you get the idea that we are talking about jar's rules here. We're not.
Frankly, based on your posts here you need some training in the basics of safe gun handling.
Nothing I mentioned is out of the ordinary, it's just basics.
This has nothing to do with politics, it is a simple fact that Cheney broke not one, not two, but every rule of safe hunting.
You don't swing and shoot behind you because you do not know what is there.
Cheney screwed the pooch there.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Murphy
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Message 63 of 71 (288673)
02-20-2006 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by jar
02-20-2006 11:30 AM


Re: You're right.
"Murphy, I don't know where you get the idea that we are talking about jar's rules here. We're not."
I get that idea from reading your posts stating your rules and then saying that Cheney 'broke not one, not two, but every rule..."
You put this accident into your supposed circumstances and ignored the information available that clarified it, from those who investigated it and were involved in it. The only one who has blamed Cheney was Cheney himself, but for some reason you think that you know more than any of those present. Wittingham has claimed responsibility for it because he should have announced his rejoining the hunting party. You've accused Cheney of everything from pointing his shotgun at his friends to shooting the dogs! Read your posts and how you ignored everything except your opinion.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 64 of 71 (288674)
02-20-2006 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Murphy
02-20-2006 12:36 PM


Cheney broke the rules.
Did Cheney shoot someone?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 65 of 71 (288730)
02-20-2006 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Murphy
02-20-2006 12:36 PM


Re: You're right.
The only one who has blamed Cheney was Cheney himself
Well, no, not exactly. Cheney started out by blaming Wittington. Oh, wait, scratch that. Cheney didn't have the courage to come out and blame Wittington himself; he had to send four of his staffers out to blame Wittington first.
No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007711.php
Murphy, fascinatingly, is under the impression that whatever the administration says can be believed, even when they've contradicted themselves in the space of 48 hours.

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Murphy
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Message 66 of 71 (288760)
02-20-2006 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by crashfrog
02-20-2006 2:54 PM


Re: You're right.
Sure seems to me that Ms. Armstrong, who was there, told what happened from what she saw. Was that the administration talking? Then her husband confirmed what she said. That must have been the administration. Then Wittingham himself told his side of the story, which was right in line with the Armstrongs' description. Is Wittingham the administration?
The writer that you linked to, a site certainly prone to attacking the administration at every opportunity, tried to tie them all to the administration.
Maybe the question should be just who is considered 'administration' by the left.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 67 of 71 (288766)
02-20-2006 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Murphy
02-20-2006 4:04 PM


Re: You're right.
Sure seems to me that Ms. Armstrong, who was there, told what happened from what she saw.
She wasn't there, wasn't a witness, which is of course why her first accounts were quickly contradicted.
Then her husband confirmed what she said.
Well, actually her husband's story contradicted hers on several counts.
Was that the administration talking?
Well, you tell me. Did Mrs. Armstrong come out immediately on her own?
The writer that you linked to, a site certainly prone to attacking the administration at every opportunity, tried to tie them all to the administration.
You don't believe that Scott McClellan is a member of the Bush administration?

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Murphy
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Message 68 of 71 (288769)
02-20-2006 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by crashfrog
02-20-2006 4:26 PM


Re: You're right.
Why ask me? You're the one making the accusations! What does McClelland have to do with your accusations and the linked site?

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 69 of 71 (288773)
02-20-2006 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Murphy
02-20-2006 4:32 PM


Re: You're right.
What does McClelland have to do with your accusations and the linked site?
Did you even read the article? He's mentioned prominently as the second attack dog loosed by the administration.
Are you really trying to suggest that the President's press secretary isn't a member of the administration? Did you just not know who that guy was, or what?

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Murphy
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Message 70 of 71 (288849)
02-20-2006 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by crashfrog
02-20-2006 4:38 PM


Re: You're right.
Excuse me, I misread the article. I should make sure I know all the facts before questioning them.

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Minnemooseus
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From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior)
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Message 71 of 71 (289456)
02-22-2006 5:21 AM


"Cheney's Got a Gun" audio and video
Parody of Aerosmith's "Jamie's Got A Gun"
http://www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/downloads.asp is one location where various file format versions are available.
Direct link to MP3 version
Only heard the audio, not seen any video.
Moose

  
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