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Author Topic:   Scenarios For the Near Future Climax of Human History
iano
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Message 33 of 36 (290857)
02-27-2006 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Hangdawg13
11-30-2005 2:48 PM


I reckon human selfishness will be the root cause of the end as we know it. Resources are dwindling whilst desire for resources accelerates. Right on cue we have places like India and China coming on stream as potentially massive consumers.
Capitalism is the worlds way and is increasing it's penetration globally. It's key feature forms the root of our demise - capitalism demands ever-increasing growth. The undertow of this, human addiction to materialism, will vote out governments who aren't prepared to do that which is necessary to ensure the drugs keep flowing. It won't be blatant but if "it's the economy stoopid" then governments will know on which side their bread is buttered and manufacture if necessary, the potential for jumping through their masters hoops.
Oil is the current worry, but there are any number of resource issues which the world is going to have trouble circumventing - depending on how quickly they arrive. If oil is mega-strategic now, then chromium, copper, nickel and molybdenum are stacking up behind it. As pressure increases on different fronts, measures taken will gradually become more desperate. There will be less resistance to the idea of using, first malign influence, then limited force, then greater force to ensure supply. Nothing very sudden but a gradual shifting in of acceptability in that direction. We know of the corruption and abuse that ensures supplies from the African continent - we should not expect our nature to change any time soon. We cannot evolve quickly enough from our essential humanity for it to be otherwise
Good old fashioned war, for the good old fashioned reasons for war, will, I reckon, pull down the shades on this world

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 34 of 36 (290942)
02-27-2006 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by jar
02-26-2006 11:29 PM


Re: Not enough is known but....
Okay, maybe this could head down an interesting track.
What would be the 5 biggest threats that should be considered?
What would be the 5 best steps to take to prepare for each?
Given the piece above it would be "fast dwindling resources" x 5
Steps to prepare for it? Pull the brakes so as to nigh on halt consumption and change the world OS from capitalism to...well I'm not quite sure what...
Personally I think we have already gone over the edge and a plummeting into the Abyss. Too much momentum to stop things now. There seems little point in applying the brakes. All that remains is to enjoy the ride we manufactured for ourselves while it lasts. I suspect that like most fireworks displays, the biggest snap and crackle is reserved until the end.
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Within the borders of Afghanistan there are approximately 91 minerals, metals and gems. Beryllium and uranium are two of the more important resources due to their rarity and value. Others mineral and elemental resources include gold, silver, copper, chrome, lead, zinc, manganese, iron and nickel. Lapis lazuli, amethyst, beryl, ruby, emerald,
Why all the interest in Afganisthan in recent years? The Russians got themselves bogged down in a war where no war was warranted. We've seen a recent overthrow of the government there the result of which is the presence of a more Western-sympathetic regieme. Southern Africa has something like 95% of the world reserves of Chromium - not as sexy as oil but essential all the same (you need chromium for stainless steel which is irreplacably vital in all kinds of industries including food and pharmaceutical processing facilities). When the squeeze comes on Chromium can we expect some 'liberation from persecution and repressive regiemes" there too.
I know those in the States might be used to it but a fairly recent addition on this side of the pond has been the influx of cheap Chinese goods. When I see a crap quality electric drill on sale for $10 in my local diy store I have to wonder. It might be crap but folk buy them knowing that it may well break a year from now. And so what at $10! But it uses nigh on the same chromium, molybdenum, copper, oil etc that a lifetime-warranty model costing $100 would. But nobody (or nobody enough) is interested in the $100 model anymore. Rather than a good tool being the preserve of someone genuninely interested, every Tom, Dick and Harriet has one in his/her shed
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