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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2753 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
A question for the literalists --
Did Adam have twigs and berries beneith his fig leaf? Here's why I ask... Adam was created in God's image, but why would God, a unique being, have genitalia? Adam was created with no anticipation of woman. Woman was only created at Adam's request, so why have reproductive organs on the sole inhabitant of Earth? Seems like either God has a penis and testicles, and therefore is not "the one and only" or God didn't create Adam in his image - which contradicts the uncontradictable text of the Bible.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1728 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Adam was created in God's image, but why would God, a unique being, have genitalia? Why does "image" have to mean "body image"?
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ramoss Member (Idle past 873 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
The Jewish interpretation of 'in god's' image was the spiritual image, not the physical one.
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Modulous Member (Idle past 246 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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Adam was created in God's image, but why would God, a unique being, have genitalia? A few things spring to mind. Perhaps the Egyptians remembered this aspect of the creation story when they talk of Atum, autofelating as part of the creation story. This may be something that was removed or forgotten when the Hebrews passed on the tale, but the Egyptians remembered. This myth later became Atum mating with his own shadow, shadow in Hebrew is tselem, which is translated as 'in his own image' in Genesis. Though that's probably heresy Maybe God has both sexual organs which he needed in order to create everything. He gave Adam both, but then removed one of them when he created Eve? Maybe God created Adam to His likeness, but not as a perfect copy. He provided Adam with male genitalia because He knew that He would later create Eve.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 995 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
but then removed one of them when he created Eve? "Rib" was a euphemism? A very odd euphemism?
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Modulous Member (Idle past 246 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
"Rib" was a euphemism? A very odd euphemism?
Well, let's strangle things a little more here. The word 'rib' in Hebrew comes from 'tsala' which means 'to curve'. Maybe god removed Adam's 'curves'? Or perhaps it was one of the famous jewish puns? That way leads to madness, amateurs should stay away from trying to figure out Hebrew (or indeed, make stuff up).
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2753 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
So, Man was created in God's spiritual image...
And man's spirituallity is beholden to a higher spiritual being...So, God is likewise beholden to a higher spiritual being... So, who's the God that created God?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2753 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
If God is a hermaphrodite, why not just make both Adam and Eve hermaphrodites. That idea's not tracking.
Additionally, if God knew that he was later make Eve, why did Adam have to ask? And, since sex is such a sin, why not just go with sinless asexual reproduction like we've seen in other life forms here on Earth?
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1605 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
well, god did make BOTH man and woman in his image.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 873 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
That is why in the Jewich concept.. god has both aspects of both male and female.
The Feminine aspect of God is called the Shekhina.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1605 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
The Feminine aspect of God is called the Shekhina. which reminds me. leonard nimoy should stick to acting. no offense, leonard, but get a tripod. i've heard a bunch of different interpretations of shekinah, some more of a "holy spirit" or presence of god idea. i think qabalists say that the male god is malevolent, and the female benevolent. or something.
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I think its obvious that for adam to have reproduced and had a son , he would have had to have genetalia .
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Modulous Member (Idle past 246 days) Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
If God is a hermaphrodite, why not just make both Adam and Eve hermaphrodites. That idea's not tracking. The question is, if God is all powerful why did he need a rib? Why did He need to use clay? Why did the fall happen? etc . The Genesis God doesn't work like that.
Additionally, if God knew that he was later make Eve, why did Adam have to ask? Just because He wrote the script, doesn't mean it doesn't have to be followed. He knew Adam was going to ask, and He knew that would lead to him doing it.
And, since sex is such a sin, why not just go with sinless asexual reproduction like we've seen in other life forms here on Earth? Sex isn't a sin.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 873 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
The use of the 'rib' to create eve is to indicate that Man and Woman should be 'of a single flesh'. It is basically a symbolic way of showing that it is desireable for marriage to last a lifetime, rather, than like the beasts, go from mate to mate to mate.
This concept can be further expanded upon by the choice of the name 'EVE'. In Hebrew, the name is related to the word 'life'. It also means 'mother of all things'. Also, the word 'rib' is also the hebrew word for 'side'. This signfies that a man and wife shoudl be 'side by side'.. as Because of the generic meanings of the names, ADAM and EVE are the archtypical 'every man' and 'every woman'. Because of the meanings of the words, it is obvious that the story of Genesis was not literal, but was an allegory.
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