EvC Forum: How old did the Garden of Eden appear on Day 7?

Hello Musicman,

Thank you for your reply; and,

Welcome to the forum.

musicman writes:

God planted a garden.

The curious thing about this is that he planted a garden at all, don't you think? I mean, the creation was done, yes?

quote:
"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, ..." Gen 2:1

Earth was all good, yes? A sort of tropical paradise according to the general view. No problems.

But Wait! What's this? Beginning at chapter two verse four we begin to encounter Problems:

A land without rain. - Problem.
A field without crops or cows. - Problem.
No man to work the farm. - Problem. (And later on),
No mate for the man. - Big Problem.

These are all Serious Problems. But then:

God brings a "river" to water the garden. Problem solved.
God plants crops and brings in livestock. Problem solved.
God makes a farmer and puts him to work. Problem solved.
God makes a woman for the man to mate. Problem solved.

So tell me: Which was it in the beginning? Tropical Paradise? Or, Desert Garden?

You don't have to answer now. It's just something to think about.

He must have known what kind of soil He was planting in. After all He had just formed a man from it not that long ago.

This brings up an interesting point. Not three days ago I re-read the story and noticed that when Adam was thrown-out-the-garden he landed in the soil from which he was taken. (Gen 3:23) Adam was apparently not taken from the soil of The Garden but rather from the soil outside the garden. Land outside the garden was apparently inhospitable (Gen 3:18), which we may assume to be the reason for planting the garden in the first place. The garden itself was apparently unaffected by the curse which was placed on its surroundings (Gen 3:17). Some say the Garden of Eden is now "in heaven" and will be restored to earth someday. But why was the Garden not cursed? It was, after all, the scene of the "crime." Why should the Garden of God be exempt over and above the balance of creation? If the soil of the Garden was especially holy and sacred then what does this say about the remainder of the globe? Or is the creation story NOT global in scope?

Here again, don't feel that you have to answer. It's just something to think about.

If, say, a soil was nitrogen rich, and at that time the process was such that carbon was formed from that, rather than the other way round like we see plants take in carbon now, and produce, I think, nitrogen-- then the seed planted might do alright if it had water.

I must recommend you study Chemistry. A course in Soil Science would also be helpful. These enlightenments are required of Agriculture students and provide knowledge which you might find interesting and useful.

And we are told it did. So, how it would have worked in the beginning of things would have to be different that how it works now.

Your argument is "circular." You assume that things were different then, and you conclude, that they were different based solely (apparently) on the assumption that they were different. Where does evidence and reason enter into the formula? Consider this: According to the scenario you suggest, God radically redesigns the entire foundation of existence (physics, chemistry, biology i.e. Natural Law) because a couple of Jews ate something non-kosher. How reasonable is that and what evidence do you offer in support of it?

Therefore I do not see how as that the thought entered Adam's head, that the soil looked old.

I agree. I doubt Adam gave it a second thought. I'm sure he was too busy ogling Eve.

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