No Abiogenesis, no Evolution, then what?

How many people have difficulty in assembling a puzzle? I am sure there are a lot. If this simple process requires intelligence, how could you imgine a lot, lot, lot, lot more complex structures like the cell just be brought into existence without any external power?Man can not even understand the complexity of the living cell.
If it is not God, then who? Is it an alien from Mars? Superman? Computer programmer? Geneticist? Architect?Man attempted to create life for more than 200 years. All that he ended up with was a soup of chemicals which were no more useful.

Bird is building a nest. This is a learned behaviour. You can also call it as a response to the environment. It could also be Stimulus-response. My anology is not wrong. I have already given the analogy of the computer. i am not going to repeat this.

Why is this bad and how? In nature, we have 3 dimentional models. I gave the analogy of the puzzle because, i could not find anything much simpler than this. The bottom line, is even in order to assemble apuzzle, some basic intelligence is necessary. If aperson does it continuously, then he develops the learned behaviour. Learning is a function of intelligence.

I gave the example of a puzzle to explain intelligent activity. This analogy has nothing ot do with a biogenesis.

I do not think so. This analogy was given only to demonstrate that self assembly of proteins cannot occur and they do nto occur.

We are all missing the point of discussion here. Assembling a puzzle has nothing to do with a-biogenesis. Here it is the correct information that a person has to either synthesize or assimilate in order to complete the puzzle. What is information? It is similar to the Code in DNA. Prior information is neccessary for any useful activity or function. Is this information DNA? No, DNA is the physical entity which has the information in the form of the sequence of the bases. So, for information, intelligence is necessary. Assembly of DNA also requires intelligence. This intelligence is not physical. It is intangible.

Very well written excellent assumptions.

It sounds like a robot inside the cells. Even if we assume that it is a robot, the robot has to be given the information( by a Software programmer) to assemble the DNA's. Information is not materialistic. You can have a library full of documents. Here the information is in the form of Documents either on paper or microfilm or magnetic material.The form of storage varies. But, it is still the information which is not a physical entity.

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It is very simple. I am not a molecular biologist. Therefore, I cannot give specific details. If i remember correctly at the Louis Pasteur University, they did a classical experiment. They inroduced a modified genetic material into a frog embryo and they made this to synthesize human serum albumin. Frog nnormally does not synthesize human serum albumin. This genetic material had the information. This information was transferred to frog embryo. Frog embryo took the information and processed it. Then, it sysnthesized human serum albumin. If you put in a different gentic information, then you will get a different material. This information was in the form of specific nucleotide sequences.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

. We have DNA sequencers available. You can throw in any cellular material. This machine will analyse the nucleotide sequences. The sequence of nucleotide in the DNA is the information. If it is acell, it will have DNA and you can find out the information(nucleotide sequence) It will be combinations of A-G-T-C (A-adenine, G-guanine, T-thymidine, C-Cytosine) If there is no DNA, there will be no information. It is as simple as this.

You already know this.Do not you? What did you learn in school? Was it pictures, calculations Stories? What did your teachers impart you with?

When insects carry pollen, they actually carry genetic information.The actual substance is unimportant. So for information transfer, a physical carrier for storage and for the control of processes and a defined coding system for representing ideas in the form of symbols that can be copied.Several hierarchical levels characterise all information which is (syntax, code, grammar, semantics and pragmatics. These are structurally, non material. Every piece of information implies the existence of a sender and a receiver
Information is inherently, not a material entity, but a mental or spiritual one.Material processes do not qualify as sources of information. Information is not a probablistic entity. Information only originates voluntarily(intention,intuition, disposition). Every piece of information has a mental(intelluctual and spiritual) sourceMutation and selection cannot produce new information.

I do not understand how everyone who has objected to my posts, do not understand the meaning of the simple word "Information" when we live in an era of information in a high tech society.
Well,now I know why. The reason is very simple. Creation of any new information depends on intelligence. No information can arise without intelligence and in this forum, we are discussing intelligence. No one has given any explanation as to how information can arise without intelligence. However, everyone is demanding explanation for information.

The discussion here is on what is information. For the alleles, progenies and even mutants, the basic genetic information is necessary. A modified gene still has information as the DNA code. You had asked me the question: What is information. Now, I have to repeat the same to you.

What you have shown here is a quantification of the data in the form of bytes.This is one way ( today's high tech age, this is the digital information).
Whether it is digital / analogue,it is a form of expression. This even does not explain what is information.