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Author Topic:   Are all Mutations harmful because creatures were designed?
rgb
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Message 24 of 39 (292547)
03-05-2006 10:39 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Dubious Drewski
03-05-2006 10:00 PM


Re: This argument baffles me
Drewsky
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It can even be proven "a priori":
No, it can not! It required the work and experiments of the brilliant scientist Mendel to show us that blacksmiths don't past on their blacksmith "gene" to their children.
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1) Children can receive traits from their parents. (or even their grandparents)
Where else would they get their traits from?
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2) Asthma can be passed from a parent to a child through birth. If one of your parents has it, you may or may not be born with it.
Asthma is not passed on to the next generation through birth. It is passed on through genetic inheritence.
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3) A child may die of asthma.
And he may not.
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4) If someone dies as a child, there was never a chance to pass on traits to another generation.
Therefore: The children who are born without asthma are more likely to survive long enough to have children of their own.
Not if the trait is recessive and gives the host with a single recessive an advantage over the people without the allele, like sickle hemoglobin.
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What is selective breeding? Is it not artificial evolution?
No.
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Why must you always take an entire prescription of antibiotics?
Common sense?
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Please, try to discount these arguments. I'm almost certain it can't be done.
If there is one thing I have learned over the years about this debate is to never underestimate the creationist.
This message has been edited by rgb, 03-05-2006 10:41 PM
This message has been edited by rgb, 03-05-2006 10:42 PM

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rgb
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Message 30 of 39 (292606)
03-06-2006 5:48 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by crashfrog
03-06-2006 12:54 AM


Re: This argument baffles me
crashfrog
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I don't understand the argument that it's "common sense" to do so, outside of the theory of evolution.
Because most people don't have an adequate grasp of the theory, and it is impractical to go around shaking each person telling him the real reason.
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Always doing what doctors say? Common sense dictates the opposite; doctors have been known to kill people.
Actually, to realize that doctors have been known to kill people when thinking about whether to take the whole course of antibiotics require a little bit of thinking outside the box for most people. For me personally, I'd rather people listen to their doctors (and sue them later if something goes wrong) then the other way around.
But for the sake of argument that it is indeed common sense to not listen to your doctor, would you be willing to place a bet with me that you could with ease convince people like randman and faith to take the entire course of antibiotics for evolutionary reasons? I currently have 5 whole dollars in cash. How much do you have?

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rgb
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Message 35 of 39 (292877)
03-07-2006 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by crashfrog
03-06-2006 5:34 PM


Re: No, it does not.
crashfrog
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Any chance you and Zim will have, like, 20 kids, thus passing on that mutation to a greater degree than others?
Why have 20 when they can induce to have about 7 at a time for several times, giving us at least 30-40 little ones?
Then of course her little ones will outbreed mine, considering I had 4 taken out.

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