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Author Topic:   Where does literalism end and interpretation begin?
LinearAq
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Message 17 of 96 (292933)
03-07-2006 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by robinrohan
03-06-2006 9:01 PM


Why not literally?
robinrohan writes:
The parables of Jesus, for example, are not meant literally.
What is it that in the writing that brings about this conclusion?
You mean there really wasn't a Good Samaritan?

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LinearAq
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Message 79 of 96 (293709)
03-09-2006 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Faith
03-08-2006 6:55 PM


Following it literally.
Faith writes:
Christians obey all the ten commandments...
As a practical matter, what must I do to ensure I am obeying #4?
Isn't the Sabbath on Saturday? Does that mean I cannot work on Saturday?

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LinearAq
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Message 83 of 96 (293965)
03-10-2006 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
03-10-2006 2:46 AM


Re: Following it literally.
I'm not going to argue with you about what the Sabbath is, what day and so on, or how it should be observed. I'll leave that to your own understanding, your own conscience.
But you're the literalist, not me. A little clarity on how you follow this commandment is very much on topic from my point of view. You said "all Christians" follow the Ten Commandments. If you don't use a particular day as the Sabbath, then how you determined why you don't have to could give us some insight into the limits of your literalism.

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LinearAq
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Message 87 of 96 (293986)
03-10-2006 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Murphy
03-10-2006 12:06 PM


Re: Following it literally.
Murphy writes:
The 7th day depends on what the 1st day is. If Monday is #1 then Sunday is #7. If Sunday is #1 then Saturday is #7. None of that is really relevant. What is relevant is the day one accepts as the Sabbath and what that person does on the Sabbath.
I have no idea what your claims to literalism are. However, unless you can provide some Bible quotes showing how the Sabbath became a movable day, I think you are blowing smoke. From what I know, the day is Saturday and has been that since its inception under Moses.
I think that is why Christ said we must be like children. Children don't have those 'filters' and accept almost everything as written or stated. Adults tend to apply too many worldly concepts to their input.
Is this some insight as to your beliefs? Don't you think that this method would lead to some problems with poetic and parable passages being taken as true events? Additionally, this concept seems contradictory to your next paragraph where you state that the meaning of the words when they were written is important. How would a child know this?

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LinearAq
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Message 88 of 96 (293991)
03-10-2006 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Faith
03-10-2006 12:14 PM


Saturday? Sunday? Thursday? Jesus?
Faith writes:
I'm torn between observing a Sunday Sabbath and the view that Jesus is our Sabbath so that all specific observances are irrelevant. It's not a comfortable place to be.
Uncertainty tends to be quite uncomfortable.
It seems that you are trying to decide between interpretations done by groups or persons other than yourself. What position is most supported by the Bible?
Can you make a Biblical case for any or all of the methods used to "observe" the 4th Commandment?

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LinearAq
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Message 89 of 96 (293993)
03-10-2006 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Faith
03-10-2006 12:19 PM


Early Church Observances
The early church met for worship on the FIRST day of the week, the "Lord's Day" which was the day of Jesus' resurrection
This makes a certain sense especially if they wanted to distance themselves from the Jewish community. However, I don't see any reference in the Bible about shifting to Sunday. Is the day of worship required to be on the day of the Sabbath?

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