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Genetic problems with genesis, the great flood, etc

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inkorrekt
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Message 76 of 81 (293472)
03-08-2006 8:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 75 by Coragyps
03-07-2006 11:01 PM

Re: the laws changed
Whatever that is. Nothing happens spontaneously. If they do, then we will only have chaos in the universe.
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Message 77 of 81 (293479)
03-08-2006 9:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 72 by sfs
03-06-2006 8:44 AM

Re: the laws changed
I will have to search for this information. I do not have it now.
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Message 78 of 81 (293497)
03-08-2006 9:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 76 by inkorrekt
03-08-2006 8:51 PM

Re: the laws changed
Nothing happens spontaneously.
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Salt has to be told to dissolve in water? Hydrochloric acid to fizz on concrete? Water to run downhill? Skunk scent to diffuse toward your nose? Lots of things happen spontaneously.
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And we do have a fair bit of chaos in the universe.
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Message 79 of 81 (293639)
03-09-2006 11:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 76 by inkorrekt
03-08-2006 8:51 PM

Re: the laws changed
I think inkorrekt may be confusing "spontaneously" with "without a cause". Or something like that.
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Message 80 of 81 (293648)
03-09-2006 12:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 79 by sfs
03-09-2006 11:53 AM

Re: the laws changed
sfs writes:
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I think inkorrekt may be confusing "spontaneously" with "without a cause".
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Maybe we could get him to explain spontaneity to us in terms of Gibbs free energy (or the free energy of his choice ).
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Message 81 of 81 (293795)
03-09-2006 9:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 78 by Coragyps
03-08-2006 9:51 PM

Re: the laws changed
You have answered my question. If acid remains in the container and the concrete is there, nothing happens. REACTION BEGINS ONLY WHEN THEY COME IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER. Here, no reaction can occur until the two react or mix. This has nothing to do with spontaneous activity.
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