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Author Topic:   Billion Degrees! Have we stumbled upon something new?
Modulous
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Message 9 of 22 (294006)
03-10-2006 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Jazzns
03-10-2006 11:52 AM


End times
I'm totally fascinated by it. A non-nuclear source of massive amounts of energy? I wonder how efficient/expensive the procedure is compared with the joule output. There is a geeky discussion of it at slashdot, which has some enlightening parts.
Maybe its the end of the world. If we translate it into greek it becomes the - (Omega machine), which is a damned ominous name :-)

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Message 10 of 22 (294007)
03-10-2006 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by roxrkool
03-10-2006 12:36 PM


decay rate change
I know that high pressure has been known to effect decay rates, but requires stupdendous pressures to effect it by a tiny amount.

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Message 13 of 22 (294016)
03-10-2006 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Percy
03-10-2006 1:10 PM


new physics
Measuring such high temperatures is not simple, and a number of assumptions are involved, probably including the radius of the tungsten wires. Given that their machine is operating outside of its expected range, it seems more likely that they'll find a measurement or calibration problem rather than new physics.
I don't think it is more likely now. It is still possible of course, but reading this article:
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The results, recorded by spectrometers and confirmed by computer models created by John Apruzese and colleagues at Naval Research Laboratory, have held up over 14 months of additional tests.
...
Haines theorized that the rapid conversion of magnetic energy to a very high ion plasma temperature was achieved by unexpected instabilities at the point of ordinary stagnation: that is, the point at which ions and electrons should have been unable to travel further. The plasma should have collapsed, its internal energy radiated away. But for approximately 10 nanoseconds, some unknown energy was still pushing back against the magnetic field.
If there was such an error, I'd have thought they'd have caught by now. I'm more inclined to think something previously unknown is going on, even if it isn't a miracle solution to all our problems

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Message 21 of 22 (297273)
03-22-2006 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by ramoss
03-22-2006 8:46 AM


information reading
The heat was highly localized, and they read the information wrong.
What do you mean?

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