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Author Topic:   Is God Omnipresent?
Chronos
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Message 9 of 86 (294286)
03-11-2006 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Phat
03-10-2006 8:35 PM


Re: Evil needs a carrier
Evil needs a carrier, much like a germ or virus needs a carrier. Evil is allowed to flourish in the absense of acknowledgement and surrender to Gods Spirit.
Do you consider natural disasters to be evil?
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Chronos
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Message 12 of 86 (294299)
03-11-2006 2:35 PM
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03-11-2006 2:01 PM


Re: Evil needs a carrier
No. Natural disasters are inanimate events. Evil needs animation, or life within which to carry out whatever it is that evils "purpose" is.
To you, what distinguishes evil events from bad events? We agree that natural disasters can be bad, correct?
The Holy Spirit, IMO and Belief, is everywhere...without limitation...
while evil disembodied spirits need bodies in which to animate their purpose.
So, if the Holy Spirit is living inside of every virus, harmful bacteria, volcano, lightning bolt, asteroid, tidal wave, etc, is it animating them with its own purposes?
Also, can humans be evil on their own accord, or only via demons?

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Chronos
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Message 30 of 86 (294547)
03-12-2006 2:51 PM
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03-12-2006 2:46 PM


Logic Schmodgick
He would also have to be perfect. If imperfect, He would have arisen out of nature.
So, things that do not arise from nature are perfect?

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Chronos
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Message 43 of 86 (294668)
03-12-2006 8:41 PM
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03-12-2006 8:16 PM


Re: The argument
There would be no way to recognize non-perfection without have something perfect to compare it with.
Sure you could, as long as the properties of perfection are well defined.
I recognize things that are non-spherical all the time without having any true spheres to compare them to.
By definition, nothing could be anterior to God.
If you say so.
That thing would instead be God.
If the one and only qualification for being God is existing before all else.
Moreover, that thing could not be a thing. It would have to be a being. Otherwise, it would be the universe in another form.
Ipse Dixit
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