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Is God Omnipresent?

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jar
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03-10-2006 10:37 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by R. Cuaresma
03-10-2006 6:07 AM

what does OmniPresent mean
and what support is there for God being OmniPresent?
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03-11-2006 1:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 7 by R. Cuaresma
03-11-2006 9:13 AM

Re: what does OmniPresent mean
Well, you replied to me, but i still know no more than I did before.
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Because we believe that God is the creator of everything He must have the attribute of always being there in all places at the same time. But this attribute must be limited to following:
1. God is present in both past and present times.
2. God is present in both the spiritual and material world.
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What does that mean? What does that have to do with evil except to say that if true, God is evil?
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03-12-2006 10:13 AM 		Reply to: Message 13 by R. Cuaresma
03-12-2006 8:11 AM

Re: what does OmniPresent mean
I'm trying to find out what YOU mean. You said...
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Because we believe that God is the creator of everything He must have the attribute of always being there in all places at the same time. But this attribute must be limited to following:
1. God is present in both past and present times.
2. God is present in both the spiritual and material world.
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If what you say is true, that "God is the creator of everything" and that "He must have the attribute of always being there in all places at the same time" and
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1. God is present in both past and present times.
2. God is present in both the spiritual and material world.
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and evil exists, then YOU are saying that GOD is evil.
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If that is not what you are saying, then perhaps you can explain?
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03-12-2006 8:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 38 by robinrohan
03-12-2006 8:19 PM

You getting better Robbie
First you only told us what We MUST believe.
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Now you've graduated to telling GOD what He would have to be.
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Too funny. Chutzpah. Real Chutzpah. Cajones the size of Jupiter. ROTFLMAO.
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jar
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03-13-2006 7:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 67 by R. Cuaresma
03-13-2006 7:00 AM

Re: what does OmniPresent mean
But it seems that IS what you are saying? If not, can you please explain how you can say:
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Omnipresent is one of the attributes of God aside from being "Omnipotent" and "Omniscient." Because we believe that God is the creator of everything He must have the attribute of always being there in all places at the same time. But this attribute must be limited to following:
1. God is present in both past and present times.
2. God is present in both the spiritual and material world.
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If GOD is everywhere, in past and present, in spiritual and material, and evil exists, then evil is in GOD, GOD is evil.
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Either GOD is evil or GOD is not OmniPresent it seems. If that is not the case, then perhaps you can explain.
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