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Topic: Is God Omnipresent?
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robinrohan
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Re: The argument
The universe may have suddenly begun to exist for no reason whatsoever. This makes no sense. Something had to cause it.
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robinrohan
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Re: The argument
A fourth would be to recognize that the time coordinate has a definite starting point, before which there is no "before" -- like asking what is north of the north pole. Therefore, trying to think about the "cause" of the universe has problems -- "cause" or "creation" implies that there is a moment in time in which there is no universe, and then a moment when there is -- but that "moment in time" when there is no universe did not exist, since time begins the same time as the universe. In other words, the universe has always existed. This is mumbo-jumbo.
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robinrohan
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Re: Argument by incredulity?
It makes perfect sense to me Nothing can come from nothing. Think again.
As does a universe that has always existed Of course.
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robinrohan
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Re: Argument by incredulity?
You keep saying that as if it were an argument. It is.
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robinrohan
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Re: Argument by incredulity?
I suggest that you cease thinking that your own conceptual difficulties should be universal Logic pierces the veil of subjectivity.
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robinrohan
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Re: Argument by incredulity?
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How old are you? 57.
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robinrohan
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Re: Argument by incredulity?
I would prefer to be 30 however.
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robinrohan
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Re: Argument by incredulity?
You come across like you're, say, 12 Are you on drugs? (This is comparable to your cheap rhetorical ploy of accusing me of extreme youth.)
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robinrohan
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Message 70 of 86 (295005)
03-13-2006 7:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 69 by jar
03-13-2006 7:00 PM
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Re: what does OmniPresent mean
If GOD is everywhere, in past and present, in spiritual and material, and evil exists, then evil is in GOD, GOD is evil. To be "present," Jar, is not the same thing as being the thing you are present at. I might be present at a theater, but that doesn't mean I am the theater. God might be present at an evil event but that doesn't mean he is the evil event.
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robinrohan
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Message 81 of 86 (297091)
03-21-2006 2:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 79 by Phat
03-21-2006 10:02 AM
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Re: what does OmniPresent mean
Perhaps a philosophical question would be this:
Only God knows if He is Omnipreasent, right?
What implications do the truth or fallacy of this statement mean for humanity today? If God is not omnipresent, maybe one can hide from Him--keep a low profile, as it were.
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