What evidence absolutely rules out a Creator

So what it is a perfect world in your eye? An artificial environment where all animals are living peacefully with each other while humans killing each other?If it's said that humans are more perfect if not because of the Fall, is it perfect to make animals even more perfect than humans *THEN*?This message has been edited by Hawkins, 03-13-2006 02:20 AM

What is "perfect"? A design is perfect when it suits its purpose. A mirror is perfect as a mirror, not something can flight you from California to London, not something knows your feeling and gives your comfort via a chat. So you cant be sure what's perfect or not unless you know the design and its purpose.The "perfect" you are asking for is non-existence in the world, as nothing will be eternal here. Freewill is perfect in a sense that it allows freewill, you screwed it up, admit that. You desire a perfect world in the bottom of your heart, admit that. You need God deep inside your soul, admit that. Then repent and you'll be in the perfect world as you desire, which is eternal, where you no longer abuse your freewill to its every bit, with God's direct guidance.This message has been edited by Hawkins, 03-13-2006 08:10 PM

I've already pointed out that if all those animals are made to be vegetarians. Human intelligence will notice the odds. Second, consider that there's a law of nature out there, which the fit will remain, it is an auto-balance system (ecology) cope with other scenarios lying within this law of nature, such as climates (stabilized and auto-balanced and long lasting in order for lives to live). If this auto-balanced ecological system contains only vegetarians, you may notice the odds that this is an *artificial* system instead of a *natural* system (all judged by the average intellence of humans, if we manage to be with a higher intelligence we may notice other odds to point out that our environment is still an *artificial* environment, for instance, the stabiliy relies too much on a undersea circulation system and some planets of our solar system).Third, you are always left with choice (to believe or not), that's why it creates tons of scenarios which are *debatable but can never prove or disprove* (for the last thousand or perhaps the next couple thousand years), which itself is quite an *odd* to me.This message has been edited by Hawkins, 03-16-2006 09:51 PM