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Topic: Scientific Fact versus Interpretation
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 40 of 144 (295641)
03-15-2006 4:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 35 by Ratel 03-15-2006 4:30 PM
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You are more than welcome to join us
in the Grand Canyon from the Bottom Up thread that can be found here. The only restrictions over there is that I ask you to walk through the layers slowly with us, sticking to one layer until all questions about it have been answered. So far we have covered the Vishnu Schist and the Zoroaster Granite. What has been established is that so far four events happened. At some time in the past rock was formed which was later eroded into sand. The sand later was compressed into sandstone. Later magma intruded into the sand stone and formed granite while the sandstone was metomorphised into schist. We're still at the bottom of the Grand Canyon but getting ready to move into the Grand Canyon Supergroup which I hope will be an interesting discussion. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 59 of 144 (295740)
03-15-2006 9:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 57 by Faith 03-15-2006 8:57 PM
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Finally something that can be tested.
Seems to me that coal would have been produced in similar conditions wherever, but that the Flood would have provided beaucoup similar conditions. Great. Then if you are right Faith, there should be an identifiable layer all over the world with a band of coal that was all laid down at the same time. If that band, that layer (like the K-T Boundary layer) is there, then it might suport the Flood. If it's not there, then you can throw out your theory of coal formation. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 62 of 144 (295747)
03-15-2006 9:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 60 by Faith 03-15-2006 9:34 PM
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Re: Finally something that can be tested.
It would be nice if that was just a layer of coal that was found everywhere, but it's not. And it's not even one layer. And fortunately, it's also something that we can date, and it lasts for something more than one year. And the layers are separated by neat things that take lots of time to form like limestone, sandstone and shale and pretty clear that there was NOT one event that laid them down. If you want, once we finish the Grand Caynon from the bottom up we can start a thread on the Carboniferous Period, where we can deal with it layer by layer as well. Sorry, but there is NO support for a global flood in the Carboniferous. Would you enjoy a layer by layer look at the Carboniferous? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 66 of 144 (295762)
03-15-2006 10:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 63 by Ratel 03-15-2006 10:19 PM
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Re: Finally something that can be tested.
They can make up any scenario they want, and do. What is needed are some specific predictions that can then be tested. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 67 of 144 (295763)
03-15-2006 10:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Faith 03-15-2006 10:26 PM
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Re: Nope, you proved the Flood for me
Would you like to step through the layers and evidence one layer at a time and see if it makes sense? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 70 of 144 (295767)
03-15-2006 10:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 68 by Faith 03-15-2006 10:30 PM
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Re: Finally something that can be tested.
Would you like to put it to the test and step through the layers one at a time and see if your figment can stand up to the evidence? If so, once we finsh with the Grand Canyon we can move on to your next project. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 72 of 144 (295770)
03-15-2006 10:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 71 by Faith 03-15-2006 10:35 PM
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Re: Finally something that can be tested.
Faith, I will happily move through layers with you in another thread. Once we finish the Grand Canyon we can start a thread on the Carboniferous Period. But no, the Flood never happened Faith and there is no evidence anywhere to support such a myth. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 90 of 144 (296113)
03-16-2006 10:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 89 by Buzsaw 03-16-2006 10:34 PM
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Re: Finally something that can be tested.
Yes, and it's a laugh a minute. The ICR evidence is not just sophomoric, it's a little below Scary Story 26 on the believable scale. There is absolutely NO way the Grand Canyon was produced by the alleged Flood, just as there is NO evidence anywhere on Earth that there has been a world-wide flood in at least the last 600,000 years. The Biblical Flood never happened. If you would like, follow along with the discussion of the Grand Canyon from the bottom up and perhaps you will learn something. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 92 of 144 (296123)
03-16-2006 11:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 91 by NosyNed 03-16-2006 11:24 PM
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Re: New Topic on ICR video?
That would be nice. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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