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Author Topic:   Is God Omnipresent?
ReverendDG
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Message 36 of 86 (294647)
03-12-2006 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by robinrohan
03-12-2006 6:19 PM


Re: The argument
why does god have to be all good anyway? can't he be both? our concept of god being all good is tradition, but you have no basis that he all good only, it is christian dogma that says he is
by the way who says he is perfect, a being that can do anything would only be seen as perfect based on the fact that he can kill us
no one knows if god is perfect or not, our limited view point presents this as being the case only because we worship god, its based on fear of god not knowlege

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ReverendDG
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Message 39 of 86 (294660)
03-12-2006 8:23 PM
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03-12-2006 8:19 PM


Re: The argument
why must he be?

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ReverendDG
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Message 68 of 86 (294985)
03-13-2006 5:55 PM
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03-12-2006 8:25 PM


Re: The argument
He doesn't have to be. I'm telling you what He has to be if He exists.
You say he has to be perfect but give no reason why he has to be, it sounds like you are trying to say the only version of god thier can be can be the fundi version of god. are you sure you arn't a closet fundi robin?
i am saying god doesn't have to be morally good to be god. we only view god that way because he is god, have you ever heard of any religion that says such things as "I like our god he's a total dick!"?
god can be anything he likes, he can smite people for no reason, but will people consider that good? some will because they want to think so

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Message 74 of 86 (296560)
03-19-2006 2:13 AM
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03-19-2006 1:57 AM


Re: No. He's nt -- IMO
I agree with all of this, i am starting to develope the view that, since god is god, we say things like he is omnipotent, etc because god is more powerful than us.
We do not know if he can do the imposible or just the things we can't do, maybe he has the power to stop objects in motion but he can't stop time or be subject to things that people would think conflict with thier religion, such as doing evil, which IMO does limit god.
god in the traditional religions make him none of the things people say it is

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ReverendDG
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Message 80 of 86 (297089)
03-21-2006 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Hawkins
03-20-2006 11:51 PM


Re: what does OmniPresent mean
Yet those questions actually have *absolutely nothing* to do AT ALL with God's omni-nature, so to speak. So why bother with answering such a question?
really? i thought they had everything to do with his nature, can you explain why they do not?
So why bother with answering such a question?
because its an interesting topic and one of the main things that seems to change as time goes on, if you read genesis god is not omni anything

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