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knitrofreak Inactive Member |
hey sorry about that keep the one im using "knitrofreak" and delete the other one
thanks
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
will do.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Welcome to the fray, knitrofreak.
... I believe that Adam and Eve and others walked with the dinosaurs. This is a science forum thread, which means that evidence is needed when assertions are challenged. How do you explain the absence of any human (or for that matter ape (or for that matter monkey)) fossils in layers that have (not bird) dinosaur fossils AND the absence of any (not bird) dinosaur fossils in layers that have human (or for that matter ape (or for that matter monkey)) fossils? We're talking real certified and properly documented fossils, not creatortionista conflations. How do you explain the separation of layers with (not bird) dinosaur fossils and layers with human (or for that matter ape (or for that matter monkey)) fossils by a layer with extraodinary high iridium levels (a rare earth element but common in meteors) that is found around the world at strata levels that consistently date to ~65 million years ago (and by a number of different methods)? IE: not only are the layers with these various fossils just different layers, but all (not bird) dinosaur fossils are below this iridium layer and all human (or for that matter ape (or for that matter monkey)) fossils are above this iridium layer?
My thought on how they became extinct is when the flood happened. I'm wondering how much you have (really) thought about this? Have you tested this concept by seeing how it compares to the {fossils\data\evidence} that is available, particularly on the rate and timing of extinction events? Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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anglagard Member (Idle past 857 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
I have read the entire TalkOrigins FAQ and have not noticed any lack of credibility. Could you please elaborate?
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
I do not think you will be waiting a long time for any kind of reasonable answer.
Basically, randman thinks Talk origins is unreliable because the YEC sites he puts his trust in say they aren't.
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
I guess if you think propaganda is good science, maybe so....but if you don't like indoctrination technigues such as using the term "evolution" in different ways, insisting because one definition is true that the other is as well, a logical fallacy, and the many other errors and fallaciousness you can find there, well, if you cannot see it, I suggest you put your thinking cap back on.
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
but if you don't like indoctrination technigues such as using the term "evolution" in different ways, insisting because one definition is true that the other is as well, a logical fallacy You attempted, and failed, to support this accusation of equivocation at Message 29. Every page you linked to was quite clear in differentiating between common ancestry and allele frequency change. I post this here because the thread is still open if either you or anglagard wish to discuss it further (since it is not about humans/dinosaurs it is heading off topic).
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
No, I demonstrated it amply. No objective person that is educated in indoctrination and propaganda technigues could fail to see what I wrote is true. To hear someone like yourself say "you failed to support" means nothing. If you were taught the sky was orange, and I produced photos of it being blue, it wouldn't change your opinion. You'd still say the same thing. There are no facts, logic, etc,...that can affect you as you cling to what appears to me to be a religiously held beleif.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Big Spring???!!!! Yowza! Let's get together for a beer/coffee/other beverage!
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
No, I demonstrated it amply. No objective person that is educated in indoctrination and propaganda technigues could fail to see what I wrote is true. To hear someone like yourself say "you failed to support" means nothing. If you were taught the sky was orange, and I produced photos of it being blue, it wouldn't change your opinion. You'd still say the same thing. There are no facts, logic, etc,...that can affect you as you cling to what appears to me to be a religiously held beleif. Keep your hair on. Naturally that was my opinion of the debate based on your lack of showing any section where the accused equivocation was employed. It wasn't like you responded to any of my refutations, so how would I know if you had addressed/refuted them? I didn't see any suitable refutation in any of your other posts. I'm not going to raise my objections again, but if you'd like a reminder check out the following posts of mine that you didn't respond to:
Message 31Message 45 Message 52 Message 87 Message 89 Message 208 Message 223 Message 227 I would be more than happy if you want to show your evidence/refute my position/show me the sky is blue. I also remind you that this thread is about dinosaurs and humans allegedly walking with them. The thread we are now discussing was an offshoot of this one that was created in response to your claims here. I ask you nicely to not continue the off topicness of this discussion and if you want to discuss T.O propaganda, take it to the referenced and appropriate thread. Thanks, and take care.
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knitrofreak Inactive Member |
Ok first i havent looked closely at the fossil record but just because they arent in the same layer doesnt meant they didnt die at the same time. I dont believe that the fossil record is in chronological order. Layers could have been shifted up and down to jumble things a bit. Like i said its been a while since i was in biology
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ReverendDG Member (Idle past 4131 days) Posts: 1119 From: Topeka,kansas Joined: |
Sorry, but I have to say this, you are thinking of the wrong science if you are speaking of layers, you mean geology
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
I dont believe that the fossil record is in chronological order. Layers could have been shifted up and down to jumble things a bit.
Then how do you account for the radiometric dating that shows that the deeper you go the older it gets? If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
You said nothing nice, and just spouted a bunch of crap about another thread, and are now whining about it in a juvenile fashion. Bottom line is I amply showed on that thread the distortion, illogic, etc,...of TO evo arguments. You guys don't see it?
Why am I not surprised...
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