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Author Topic:   Scientific Fact versus Interpretation
Silent H
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Message 136 of 144 (296770)
03-20-2006 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by Faith
03-20-2006 8:29 AM


Re: Interpretation as Fact
You can't require me to read an entire article, holmes.
I read your entire post, including the quotes you gave. What is the problem with me asking you to read an article you pretty much directly damned in your post?
If you hadn't read it, or such papers then how can you criticize? I guess I'm not suggesting that you have to read it. But if you haven't and you won't, then I am suggesting you have to take back your assertions regarding what is contained therein.
I'm not going to read a whole article on geological technicalities.
You asked HOW, those "technicalities" are the answer to YOUR question. I am sorry the answer is not easy, but you asked the question. And even saying that it was a rhetorical question doesn't help your case. In fact, it makes it worse.

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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Silent H
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Message 137 of 144 (296771)
03-20-2006 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by NosyNed
03-20-2006 10:00 AM


Re: Another hit against Faith thesis too
Oh dear, an entire article.
What's that saying? You can lead a horse to an article, but you can't make her read it? Or was that a jackass? I forget.

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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Silent H
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Message 144 of 144 (297229)
03-22-2006 6:57 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Minnemooseus
03-22-2006 5:34 AM


Re: Following up on message 5
Now, The question of a specific crystal being a specific mineral is a matter of interpretation. Does the crystal meet the specifications that define that mineral.
This is a point I tried to raise with Faith back in post #82 and a couple of follow up posts.
In her OP she suggested one set of observations were wholly factual and the other interpretive, but essentially they were ALL interpretive. The methods of making the assignments (interpretations) were the same in both cases: refs to articles. Only Faith seemed to accept those cites as involving scientific reasoning, and the other set of cites as nothing but sheer speculation.
This is why I have been trying to get her to read an article essentially identical to the second set of cites. Was science methodology used or not in the interpretation of dep environment.

holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)

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