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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Why must you talk with such an irratating tone?
Please explain to the peanut gallery when sex-ed was ever mentioned, and when I said it was a bad idea. I happen to be for sex-ed, which I was one of the first students in NYC to take the course. I never went to bible camp. You have no clue who I really am, so stop guessing. If we knew each other in real life, we would get along great. I get along with everyone.
yes. abortion is just a quick fix for a deeper problem. Finally some truth, thank you. I agree.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3983 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
riVeRraT writes: I went to her web-site and read up on exactly what she stands for. Her agenda is listed, mine is not, there-for it is not the same, and funkaloyd is blowing smoke. riVeRraT Member Posts: 2722 From: NY USA Registered: May 2004 No offense, rR, but Funk's read a lot of your words, too.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Some pro-life artist decided to "memorialize" Britny Spears and her act of reproduction (a feat that any two compatible idiots are, unfortunately, more than capable of) in the worst piece of sculpture I've ever seen: "Monument to Pro-Life: The Birth of Sean Preston"
quote: From Just a moment... (not exactly safe for work, or for any sense of asthetic you might possess - it's hideous - from the angle they don't show, apparently there's an obvious portrayal of little Sean "crowning" out the backside of Ms. Spears) Best rejected title for the piece: "The sex doll I was making but somebody caught me so now I'm pretending it's a Britney Spears monument". Some immediate objections to the piece: 1) Ms. Spears isn't exactly a wholesome role model.2) You can't give birth in the downward facing dog posture. 3) Even if you could, the piece is inaccurate - Spears' delivery was by surgical elective C-section. Being made of malleable clay, I give this monstrosity about a week before it's defaced in several fairly obscene ways.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3948 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
but it is a necessary freedom. the problem is getting pregnant. the solution is male birth control pills.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
the solution is male birth control pills. that assumes that guys would be responsible. it takes two to get pregnant.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
The alternative is that they really do beleive that abortion is a monstrous crime but they don't care when it matters to them.
That doesn't seem any more charitable than assuming that they don't really believe that abortion is as bad as they say. Why do you think otherwise ??
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
No offense, rR, but Funk's read a lot of your words, too. I took that into account. My "agenda", is not an agenda. My driving force in life is to try and love others, the way I love myself, and to forgive. It is not "Something to be done, especially an item on a program or list." Her's is.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
That doesn't seem any more charitable than assuming that they don't really believe that abortion is as bad as they say. Why do you think otherwise ?? I do not disagree that those people, according to "statistics" are in fact hypocrites. Each one having their own reasons for doing so. But the same could be said for someone who doesn't care if others get an abortion, but would never get one themselves. So it probably balances out. That is why it is not a good point to argue.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 436 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I am not against male birth control, but it is not the solution.
The solution is no sex. Why do you think the Old Testament was so strict about having sex?Virginity was held with the highest regard in life, and you weren't anything if you lost your virginity in a unpure, or not accepted way. It really does solve a whole lot of physical, and mental issues. Don't take this wrong, I am just pointing it out, not saying we should actually go back to the OT rules. Ever see the movie 40 year old virgin?
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bob_gray Member (Idle past 5034 days) Posts: 243 From: Virginia Joined: |
quote:True enough. quote:Amen. Now this is much better way to frame the more/fewer argument.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
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pushed submit before post was ready -- sorry This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 26-Mar-2006 01:25 PM
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Somebody who doesn't want an abortion but allows others to get them need not be a hypocrite. They might be uncertain in their judgement or simply hold that it is a matter of personal choice.
The point - again - since you seem to have problems dealing with it is that the anti-abortion movement insists that abortion is a monstrous crime. Why is it less charitable to say that people who belong to that movement and nevertheless get abortions do not really beleive that abortion is child murder, than it is to day that they really do beleive it and go ahead anyway ? Accordign to you it is worse to say that they are supporting propaganda that they do not truly believe than to suggest that they do not think of child urder as a horrible crime or to say that they are prepared to commit horrible crimes themselves. Do you really beleive that ?o
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Why do you think the Old Testament was so strict about having sex? Virginity was held with the highest regard in life, Not to try to derail the topic, but loss of virginity in the OT was an affront to the virgin's daddy or husband-to-be. You stoned the girl to death because of those property issues, not because of her base immorality. Read Leviticus.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
It really does solve a whole lot of physical, and mental issues. No, actually, it causes these issues. Frequent sexual activity is connected to reduced stress, less incidence of depression, and in general, more healthy living.
Ever see the movie 40 year old virgin? Steve Carell is your model for a life with no physical or mental issues?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1487 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
that assumes that guys would be responsible. What leads you to believe that's an erroneous assumption? I mean, the way it is now, men have three options - permanent vascetomy, condoms that interfere with sexual sensation or may trigger latex allergies, or rely on his partner's responsibility in following a birth control regimen. I hate - hate - to see men so casually dismiss the idea of male birth control. What, you don't think men deserve reproductive choice?
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