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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Aren't you off-topic now?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3949 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
I was a teen who had sex. do you think maybe your unhealthy attitudes toward sex are a result of this?
Ask any woman who has VD, or vaginal warts, or a yeast infection. i had more yeast infections before i had sex and when i was not having sex than after. once more, your lack of scientific understanding is demonstrated in your posts. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 03-27-2006 07:28 PM
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If you have two people of known health status, and they do not carry any diseases, and they have sex, no disease forms due to their having sex: yes or no? Well technically not desease, but health issues. Kind of the same thing.
The other issues you mention are not caused by sex, they are viral or bacterial. Having sex with an uninfected person, or engaging in sexual acts which cannot allow transferral prevents one from getting anything. These issues do not suddenly spring forth abiogenetically because one has sex. The point is holmes, that there is risk involved, and general very risky busniess, you like to argue it down to it not being risky or unhealthy to have sex. If it's so safe and healthy, then go have unprotected sex with a 1000 woman, and then talk to me. I understand all the points you make, but they are irrelevant to my point. Whgile technically sex does not cause HIV, it transfers it. If everyone stopped having sex, and doing drugs, on the planet for 100 years, it would disappear, Thats says a lot to it being part of the cause. Plus since we really just don't know how it evolved, it may have well been caused by sex initially. Still not the point though. Try to stay on the thought we are argueing not the technicalities, and our discussions will cover more ground.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I never said sex was the only cause of yeast infections, and my scientific knowledge is just fine thank you.
Biology does not equal science.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Well technically not desease, but health issues. What health issues?
If everyone stopped having sex, and doing drugs, on the planet for 100 years, it would disappear, Well, of course it would - all humanity would be extinct. There'd be no hosts for the virus.
If it's so safe and healthy, then go have unprotected sex with a 1000 woman, and then talk to me. Ah, right. Because the only two options are total abstinence or profligate promiscuity.
Plus since we really just don't know how it evolved, it may have well been caused by sex initially. You really don't know anything about sexual intercourse, do you? "Hey, it causes babies to appear - why couldn't it cause a virus to appear, too?"
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Biology does not equal science. Oh, sure. That's completely reasonable. The study of life? Absolutely irrelevant to science. Has nothing to do with it.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3949 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
just to set it straight. that was coragyps, not me. (note the presence of capitalization ). i'm proud to be so associated, however.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3949 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
citation?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Numbers 5. Can't be more specific.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3949 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
What concerns me is that you relate your first sexual experience to being popped. i wanted to say "got fucked" but decided against it. i suppose i should have stayed with my first instinct. mine was love. love based on a lie. i was in love. he may or may not have been. i am compelled to believe he was not.it was not my first sexual experience. i was a technical virgin after being molested as a child and coerced by previous boyfriends. maybe it's just my virginity that meant nothing. after i finally engaged in intercourse, i noticed i had less urges, masturbated less (a mere handful of times in the year i was single afterwards), and suffered from less neuroses. and now i am able to enjoy myself occasionally instead of simply feeding a need. to prepare for arach's inevitable jibe, i joke about the need but it is little more than that.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3949 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
good enough thanks.
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nator Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: That is so very true.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
You say it's all there.
What isn't there is any alternative o the viewspoints I've considered. What isn't there is any reason to consider it to be worse to go along with the claims of the anti-abortion movement while not truly believing them than it is to have an abortion believing it to be a horrible crime. What isn't there is any admission that you were wrong to make that claim. So if it is all there you have no alternative that would be less harsh. Your reason for rejecting the idea that they might not truly beleive the claims was false. And you will not admit it.
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Silent H Member (Idle past 5841 days) Posts: 7405 From: satellite of love Joined: |
Well technically not desease, but health issues. Kind of the same thing.
Ahem... given the set up I stated, beyond pregnancy from unprotected vaginal intercourse, what health issues are there?
there is risk involved, and general very risky busniess, you like to argue it down to it not being risky or unhealthy to have sex.
There is no inherent risk to sex. Those that exist because it involves contact between humans, one or more of whom carry a disease, can be minimized or completely negated. Eating and breathing around other humans carries risk, the same kinds of risks. Do you praise those that do not eat or breathe around other people?
If it's so safe and healthy, then go have unprotected sex with a 1000 woman, and then talk to me.
I am in an open sexual lifestyle. I and my gf have had sex with many women and men. To date we have never contracted nor suffered any STDs. I'm not sure what you mean by unprotected. Do you count sex without a condom, though having been tested for STDs unprotected? Do you count not engaging in risky sexual behavior, as compared to no risk sexual behavior, as unprotected? As it is, I'd say imposing "unprotected" is unfair. That would be like me saying okay go eat a bunch of fruits, vegetables, and meats but never wash or cook them. Seriously do that and then talk to me. The fact is as a matter of common sense people generally wash and cook foods to protect themselves, not against the food, but illnesses which may be carried on or in food. The same SHOULD go for sex. If we were less obsessed with sex and viewing it as inherently "dirty", common sense rules would be followed, and we wouldn't be facing the pandemic we are today.
Whgile technically sex does not cause HIV, it transfers it. If everyone stopped having sex, and doing drugs, on the planet for 100 years, it would disappear
If we had everyone tested, and managed to impose a form of quarantine (like we do for ANY other deadly contagion) , it would also disappear. Or if we come up with a way to defeat it medically, it will also disappear. In Africa, a family is already immune to the virus thanks to a gene mutation regarding their immune system. Thus for them it is not a risk. If people stopped eating and breathing we could stop so many illnesses it would be incredible. Of course everyone would be dead, or lets pretend they could somehow live, it would pretty much suck.
Plus since we really just don't know how it evolved, it may have well been caused by sex initially.
Actually we have a pretty good idea. It was a variant of SIV (a simian virus, changed to something humans could suffer from, like the bird flu thing). It was first transferred to humans by those killing simians (that would be monkeys) for meat. It could have been from eating the meat or infected blood from the monkeys entering cuts on the hunters' body. So again, no sex as cause.
Try to stay on the thought we are argueing not the technicalities
Your "thoughts" seem to crumble to dust when one attempts to look at the technical points it relies on. That's exactly why they are important. Devil is in the details and all that. This message has been edited by holmes, 03-28-2006 10:16 AM holmes "Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." (Lovecraft)
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Well, of course it would - all humanity would be extinct. There'd be no hosts for the virus. Haha, I can't believe you said that.
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